Wlad admitting that it was him that didn't agree to fight Haye?

**AllyboyJNR** · 01-11-2011, 09:27 AM

why hasn't haye bothered to even mention vitali in all this ?

**BrooklynBomber** · 01-11-2011, 09:37 AM

I think thats a great reasoning by Wlad, Haye already did pull out of the fight with Vitaly on the last moment's notice to fight with Valuev, as we found out later he was secretly negotiating with Sauerlend while openly negotiating with Vitaly.
BTW, only you could conclude that Wlad would not sign the contract after it was Haye who said that he was done with Klitschkos practically the next day after Wlad signed Chisora.

It would actually make a lot of sense now too, if Wlad agreed to Haye's demand to stay inactive instead of signing Chisora, Haye could have easily went on to sign Derek and leave Wlad without a fight.
Thats why such a histerical reaction from Haye, his little plan was discovered

**Rick Grimes** · 01-11-2011, 09:40 AM

Originally posted by BrooklynBomber

I think thats a great reasoning by Wlad, Haye already did pull out of the fight with Vitaly on the last moment's notice to fight with Valuev, as we found out later he was secretly negotiating with Sauerlend while openly negotiating with Vitaly.
BTW, only you could conclude that Wlad would not sign the contract after it was Haye who said that he was done with Klitschkos practically the next day after Wlad signed Chisora.

It would actually make a lot of sense now too, if Wlad agreed to Haye's demand to stay inactive instead of signing Chisora, Haye could have easily went on to sign Derek and leave Wlad without a fight.
Thats why such a histerical reaction from Haye, his little plan was discovered

"If I agree he could have backed out and taken Chisora, which is a great pay-per-view for him in Britain"

Isn't that him admitting he didn't agree? Why would they need to work on the contract, when haye agreed to all his demands?

**chav** · 01-11-2011, 09:43 AM

and people wonder why heavyweight boxing is all but dead. with clowns like the current lot, is it any suprise?

haye needs to fight a klitschko and do no more talking until 1 is signed up. if wlad doesnt want to fight him then move on, i'm pretty sure vitali who is retiring at the end of this year would oblige and be happy for the retirement fund. they could have 1 big retirement party/fight.

**BrooklynBomber** · 01-11-2011, 09:45 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Blobby

"If I agree he could have backed out and taken Chisora, which is a great pay-per-view for him in Britain"

Isn't that him admitting he didn't agree?

If he agreed to stay inactive, yes. Contracts, especially the verbal ones do not go into such fine detail as to tell fighters how they should spend the seven month before the event they contracted for.

**Die Antwoord** · 01-11-2011, 09:47 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Blobby

http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=6007881

It looks to me that he's admitting that he didn't sign the contract.

What's he on about work on the contract? Haye agreed to all his demands.

What do you think?

Mr. blobby...the last remaining Hayeniac. Starting to get a little lonely trying to defend this mess? Im not sure how this is so difficult to understand. In fact this clarifies the sole reason Wlad chose Chisora...to keep Haye from choosing him. Haye can make a ton of money fighting Chisora. He can also claim Chisora is the man Wlad feared now, he can do a lot of things. So Wlad's saying, why drop the fight with Chisora, sign with Haye and have Haye drop their fight, and fight Chisora. Wlad would literally lose a year off of his career, while in his prime, to Wlad, Haye isnt worth that. How hard is that to comprehend? Let alone the millions it would cost Wlad.

Haye wont fight Chagaev. hes not goign to fight a Klitschko. He literally has no opponent remaining. Heck, even Adamek isnt interested in him and wants to fight a true champ. Who is Haye going to fight? The Klitschko's have cornered Haye and they are hurting him more than they could ever hurt him in a fight, they are taking away what he cares most about...money. Best case situation, they force haye to fight them and they get everything they want...when they want it. worst case, Haye retires after facing Sexton or Tyson Fury.

**Rick Grimes** · 01-11-2011, 09:48 AM

Originally posted by BrooklynBomber

If he agreed to stay inactive, yes. Contracts, especially the verbal ones do not go into such fine detail as to tell fighters how they should spend the seven month before the event they contracted for.

Why would they work on the contract when Haye agreed to everything he wanted? How can Haye sign, when Wlad wants to work on the contract?

If he wants to work on the contract, doesn't that mean he hasn't agreed to fight Haye July 2nd?

**BrooklynBomber** · 01-11-2011, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Blobby

Why would they work on the contract, when Haye agreed to everything he wanted? How can Haye sign, when Wlad wants to work on the contract?

OMG, you cant be that ignorat, can you?
Any contract is first verbally discussed by the sides, and the main points of a contract like:
1)purse split
2)venue
3)date
4) networks
are discussed, then when both sides agree, the lawyers start developing the contract because it has to include EVERYTHING concerning the fight inluded, but not limited to:
1) Fighter's team
2)place of living before the fight
3) thousand other fine details.

Its easy with mandatory defense, because the contract is pretty standard there. However unifications are much more unique.
Ttherefore they first virbally "agree in principle" then develop a contract, then sign it.

**Rick Grimes** · 01-11-2011, 09:54 AM

Originally posted by BrooklynBomber

OMG, you cant be that ignorat, can you?
Any contract is first verbally discussed by the sides, and the main points of a contract like:
1)purse split
2)venue
3)date
4) networks
are discussed, then when both sides agree, the lawyers start developing the contract because it has to include EVERYTHING concerning the fight inluded, but not limited to:
1) Fighter's team
2)place of living before the fight
3) thousand other fine details.

Its easy with mandatory defense, because the contract is pretty standard there. However unifications are much more unique.
Ttherefore they first virbally "agree in principle" then develop a contract, then sign it.

They already had the contract drawn up, Haye was waiting for a signature.

Wlad admitting that it was him that didn't agree to fight Haye?