was holyfield and roy jones on roids?

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  • kapersky
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    #31
    Originally posted by Pugnacious_Z
    **** links, i did it, and dats all i used and wat i did, and im no easy gainer, trust me
    if its true, it wouldnt be hard to find a link to prove your word. m8 are you sure you when up pure muscles?

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      #32
      Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
      lol, you people are idiots who say Roy was on Roids. Truly clueless. Roy walked around at 188 as of September 2003. Six months later he fought Ruiz and weighed in at 199 (fight night weight). No, this si not a sign of Roids at all. For you to say that means you are uneducated or you are a hater. My friend EJ gained 10 lbs in TWO MONTHS after boot camp.
      That was the funny story about Jones vs Hall, Jones was on roids and Hall complained about it, then they found out Hall had twice as much in his body.

      Roids helps you train better, just because he didnt get huge doesnt mean he didnt take roids, he could have used them so his training was more intense. Roids dont make you massive, you need to be lifting for it to be effective in gaining size.

      I'm not sure if Roy did take roids but what you say doesnt prove he didnt.

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        #33
        hmm

        Roids helps you train better, just because he didnt get huge doesnt mean he didnt take roids, he could have used them so his training was more intense. Roids dont make you massive, you need to be lifting for it to be effective in gaining size.

        I'm not sure if Roy did take roids but what you say doesnt prove he didnt.
        Yes, naturally, but that goes for everone. Also, they test fighters and Roy was not tested posiive for the Ruiz fight, so it is a baseless assumption. That pretty much does prove he didn't take them.

        You can't lynch mob a guy anyway just because you can't prove he didn't take them. You can only do that once he HAS tested positive. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Of course, for anyone who hates Roy Jones (and there are many) it's just the opposite.

        Toney tested positive without a doubt but not many people seem to have cared. I think steroids don't help a boxer that much, like they might some athletes in other sports.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
          Roy walked around at 188 as of September 2003. Six months later he fought Ruiz and weighed in at 199 (fight night weight
          The fight was not six months after September 2003. The fight took place in March 2003.

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          • Super_Lightweight
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            #35
            mm

            September 2002 is obviously what I meant. The following comes from a boxing article at boxing monthly.

            Common sense and fairness never allowed me to believe Jones juiced because he has more haters than Martha Stewart. Wouldn't the word have been out on this already since the Jones-Ruiz fight was almost six months ago in Las Vegas? How long did it take Fernando Vargas, whose far more popular than Jones, to get busted and outed in Nevada for testing positive for the juice against de la Hoya last year? A week, maybe?

            The Nevada State Athletic Commission is a public entity, just like your local school board or city government. That means its books, such as fighter contracts that reveal their salary for a particular fight or attendance numbers that have been padded by a promoter, are public record. So are drug test results. "That's completely and unequivocally wrong,'' NSAC executive director Marc Ratner said of Jones' supposed positive drug test. "He had no illegal substances in his body."
            Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Super_Lightweight
              Yes, naturally, but that goes for everone. Also, they test fighters and Roy was not tested posiive for the Ruiz fight, so it is a baseless assumption. That pretty much does prove he didn't take them.

              You can't lynch mob a guy anyway just because you can't prove he didn't take them. You can only do that once he HAS tested positive. Innocent until PROVEN guilty. Of course, for anyone who hates Roy Jones (and there are many) it's just the opposite.

              Toney tested positive without a doubt but not many people seem to have cared. I think steroids don't help a boxer that much, like they might some athletes in other sports.
              I dont think they belong in the sport though, its a shame when any athlete uses drugs to cheat. Roy got caught, nothing seems to have been done so its either not too serious or he was lucky, either way it was a long time ago, as long as he doesnt test postitive anymore its fine.

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