was holyfield and roy jones on roids?

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  • riz
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    #11
    they could weight train cuz weight training actually devolops mass ... and muscle weighs more than fat.. in addition, with steroids u dont put on much weight, u get a few pounds, and lose fat... .its like rapid power

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    • kmac
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      #12
      I doubt either were on steroids,
      Both were boxing at a young age, which explains why they are so ripped

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      • BAREKNUCKLES
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        #13
        Evander was a better fighter when he weighed between 205 and 212 lbs. He was much quicker and had just as much power. When he bulked up to 218, it slowed him down considerably. I don't think steroids are quite as useful in boxing. To utilize strength in the ring, you have to have a certain type of natural power.

        George Foreman had it. He would just walk you down and put that big body on you, wearing you down.

        Ali had that type of power. Not super-human punching power type strength, but the type that pressured opponents and physically just wore them out.

        With Holyfield, the more he bulked up, the quicker he seemed to get gassed in a fight. He took a lot of breaks and rounds off more often vs. when he was lighter and quicker.

        I wondered if he used steroids. I would bet that he did, but that's just my guess.

        Evander was still my hero, regardless of what he put into his body.

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        • chaawuu
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          #14
          uhhh RJJ tested positive for roids. Evander probably juiced too, he had the physique.

          http://www.bo xinginsider.net/news/stories/61774588.php

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            #15
            Originally posted by chaawuu
            uhhh RJJ tested positive for roids. Evander probably juiced too, he had the physique.

            http://www.bo xinginsider.net/news/stories/61774588.php
            I'm glad someone remembers that, i was going to talk about the "Roid Jones Jr" situation myself.

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            • kapersky
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              #16
              nowonder why jones looks so different and gain so much weight. he got caught but nothing happen. most modern boxer have use some kind of drugs or roids. maybe not lewis, he is just naturally big.

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              • InThisCorner
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                #17
                I guarantee all world-class boxers use some sort of performance enhancing drug anyways.

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                • Pugnacious_Z
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                  #18
                  2lbs a year, wat the hell is dat, ill gain dat much muscle in a coupple weeks, i gained 22lbs of muscle in 9months naturally. and natural power is a load of bull, u can get physically strong by lifting, ever wrestle a bodybuilder, ull see wat i mean

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                  • ricecrispi
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                    #19
                    RJJ was caught using roids. Whether it was for injury, gain mass, or to cheat we won't know. IMHO opinion he was cheating. How did he get so big for Ruiz so quickly.

                    As for Holyfield, I'm not surprised thinking about the supposed heart condition he had, the bad performances after he gained the mass.

                    I seen and heard tons of roids used in MMA. Being it is an international sport and dozens of organizations, drug enforcement is weak. I seen guys use it to get quick mass and not to get performance, to heal serious injuries, or straight out cheat by getting stronger, bigger and faster. It does give a good boost but doesn't make you superhuman strong.

                    I've wrestled bodybuilders and guys that use roids, they are strong but not to a level that is amazing. The strongest guys are the ones who are naturally strong by genetics and don't need to work out to get strong.
                    Last edited by ricecrispi; 09-03-2005, 05:30 AM.

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                    • Pugnacious_Z
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                      #20
                      srsly man, how can u say a natural strong guy is stronger then a guy who lifts weights to get strong, its impossible, the natural strong guy still has muscles in the same places, why wud the natural strong guy be stronger? theres no reason why it wud be

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