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  • IMDAZED
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    #31
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    You should read my previous post on importance of tune ups before having a fight with David Haye.
    As for your first point, it is quite mute, because Wlad went on to sign Adamek AFTER David Haye decided to drop the matter of a fight completely. When a girl tell you to fuck off, do you still approach her, or do you go for another one?
    I am pretty sure that if haye's team did not throw a hissy fit, we would be having something more solid then "I will retire by october without fighting a Klitschko".
    1. Having a paid sparring session is no different from having a sparring session. Ray Leonard used to have his tuneups in the gym. Actually, that's not uncommon at all. Wlad fights every seven months or so, twice a year on average. Just not valid for pulling that up deep into negotiations.

    2.If you think he called Adamek the day after negotiations and was able to place out feelers for venue, pricing, split, etc...I have an oasis in the Sahara to sell you. Trust me, that deal had been in the works a little bit before that.

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    • BrooklynBomber
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      #32
      Originally posted by cklmaced
      So you didnt really answer my question at all Im not saying Wlad shouldn't fight Chisora if he wants a tune up but then dont say Haye is ducking him when Wlad choose to not fight Haye. You didnt post anything that countered my other post about their is no point in signing contracts until the klit bros and Haye come through their fights with wins and no injuries.
      What are you talking about? Who said that the fight is off? Was it Wlad or Haye?
      You are playing rhetorics with me, and I could play that game whole day, if only it was any entertainment. At the end of the day it was David Haye who withdrew from the fight, who did not sign the contract. There is nothing more to it. Wlad chose to fight both men, because it made the most sense, he did owe Chisora a fight, any way you turn it.

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      • WladIsTheChamp
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        #33
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Right...but there's nothing stopping them from fighting in September except...Wlad has a fight scheduled then. And again...I ask you...what's stopping Wlad from taking the tuneup far earlier? And if he can't do it far earlier...what's stopping him from not doing it at all?
        Wlad just had an abdominal injury if you remember, he can't even start training yet. Like BrooklyBomber said, Gayevid already left both Klitschkos out in the cold at the last possible moment and wasted their time, in which they could have fought someone else. How can you blame Wlad for not wanting this to happen again? He wanted a tune-up and wanted the April fight and the July fight with Gayevid. Gayevid didn't sign, if he really wanted to fight Wlad, he would have signed. Bottom line, it's who doesn't accept the fight is the ducker, Wlad accepted, Gayeved ducked yet again. Now he is retiring, he tricked all those gullible Brits that he was the real deal at HW, when all he did was fight a bunch of semi-retired 40 year olds and Wlad left-overs.

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          #34
          Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
          Wlad just had an abdominal injury if you remember, he can't even start training yet. Like BrooklyBomber said, Gayevid already left both Klitschkos out in the cold at the last possible moment and wasted their time, in which they could have fought someone else. How can you blame Wlad for not wanting this to happen again? He wanted a tune-up and wanted the April fight and the July fight with Gayevid. Gayevid didn't sign, if he really wanted to fight Wlad, he would have signed. Bottom line, it's who doesn't accept the fight is the ducker, Wlad accepted, Gayeved ducked yet again. Now he is retiring, he tricked all those gullible Brits that he was the real deal at HW, when all he did was fight a bunch of semi-retired 40 year olds and Wlad left-overs.
          How long does it take to recover from the injury and when did it occur?

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            #35
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            1. Having a paid sparring session is no different from having a sparring session. Ray Leonard used to have his tuneups in the gym. Actually, that's not uncommon at all. Wlad fights every seven months or so, twice a year on average. Just not valid for pulling that up deep into negotiations.

            2.If you think he called Adamek the day after negotiations and was able to place out feelers for venue, pricing, split, etc...I have an oasis in the Sahara to sell you. Trust me, that deal had been in the works a little bit before that.
            On bolded, it took wlad a whole one day to sign Peter and have everything napped down to fight him in september. Adamek is in the same situation as peter, he is the highest ranked opponent in WBO and it should really not be any issue to sign him up, because there are standard rules to sign a mandatory.

            And I really dont get your first point.

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              #36
              Originally posted by WladIsTheChamp
              Wlad just had an abdominal injury if you remember, he can't even start training yet. Like BrooklyBomber said, Gayevid already left both Klitschkos out in the cold at the last possible moment and wasted their time, in which they could have fought someone else. How can you blame Wlad for not wanting this to happen again? He wanted a tune-up and wanted the April fight and the July fight with Gayevid. Gayevid didn't sign, if he really wanted to fight Wlad, he would have signed. Bottom line, it's who doesn't accept the fight is the ducker, Wlad accepted, Gayeved ducked yet again. Now he is retiring, he tricked all those gullible Brits that he was the real deal at HW, when all he did was fight a bunch of semi-retired 40 year olds and Wlad left-overs.
              Yeah it looks like a real bad tear Lol http://theboxinghistorian.com/compon...s-injury-claim

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              • IMDAZED
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                #37
                Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                On bolded, it took wlad a whole one day to sign Peter and have everything napped down to fight him in september. Adamek is in the same situation as peter, he is the highest ranked opponent in WBO and it should really not be any issue to sign him up, because there are standard rules to sign a mandatory.

                And I really dont get your first point.
                You really think it took a day to make the Peter fight?

                And if you can't "get" my first point then don't worry about it, my man.

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                • V.WEBB
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                  #38
                  I frankly don't care about Heavyweight boxing.

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                  • WladIsTheChamp
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by VAW-JR
                    I frankly don't care about Heavyweight boxing.
                    Yet you find enought time to post about it.

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                    • WladIsTheChamp
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      How long does it take to recover from the injury and when did it occur?
                      What???? Is the first you heard about this? A day before the Chisora fight and doctors said 6 weeks for it to completly heal.

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