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  • flat1985
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    #61
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    He was doing it since 1996. In the period of time from 96 to 97 Wlad fought around 20 times. Sometimes up to two times a month.
    That was 15 years ago he has aged apparently.

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    • cklmaced
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      #62
      Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
      He was doing it since 1996. In the period of time from 96 to 97 Wlad fought around 20 times. Sometimes up to two times a month.
      Yeah 15 years ago fighters tend to fight less as they get older since Haye and Adamak would be his two biggest fights of his career im sure he will take way less time to prepare then he usually does for the bums he usually faces

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        #63
        Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
        He was doing it since 1996. In the period of time from 96 to 97 Wlad fought around 20 times. Sometimes up to two times a month.
        Really? Because, only 1 year in the past 5 years he has fought more than 2x a year.

        And, that year the 3 fights were schedules 5 months apart.

        What you're talking about is what prospects do. This is now an elite level. Haye and Adamek are big fights. Fights that the U.S Market will want. So there will not only be press conference but there will also be tours even in the U.S.

        Where would the time for all that occur when he is fighting every 8 weeks?

        No, I'm sorry for whatever reason in this negotiation he had no intentions to fight Haye. Him fighting Chisora in late April and Adamek in September proves it.

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          #64
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Do you know if he asked for any earlier dates?
          He did, what was available was april 16th(in the beginning of negotiations with Haye some 3-4 weeks ago) and april 30th. Sky declined both dates, because it was going to air Khan's fight on april 16th and royal wedding on 30th. then the next available date was july 2nd to which both parties and TV networks agreed in principle, by the time they agreed to(last week) only april 30th was an open date(outside of july 2nd).

          Another point is that Chisora will be Wladimir's last contracted fight with RTL, he is a free agent afterwards. If both parties were to really look to maximise profits, this is the best solution that Wlad would fight Chisora and Haye would fight Chagaev, then meet in the ring with both being free from any contractual obligations. Wlad will likely get an extension with RTL after anyway, but for much more then 3million euros, since his ratings are amongst the best in Europe. Haye will obviously benefit from not being under the wing of Sauerlend.

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            #65
            Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
            He did, what was available was april 16th(in the beginning of negotiations with Haye some 3-4 weeks ago) and april 30th. Sky declined both dates, because it was going to air Khan's fight on april 16th and royal wedding on 30th. then the next available date was july 2nd to which both parties and TV networks agreed in principle, by the time they agreed to(last week) only april 30th was an open date(outside of july 2nd).

            Another point is that Chisora will be Wladimir's last contracted fight with RTL, he is a free agent afterwards. If both parties were to really look to maximise profits, this is the best solution that Wlad would fight Chisora and Haye would fight Chagaev, then meet in the ring with both being free from any contractual obligations. Wlad will likely get an extension with RTL after anyway, but for much more then 3million euros, since his ratings are amongst the best in Europe. Haye will obviously benefit from not being under the wing of Sauerlend.
            How about in March?

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              #66
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Do you know if he asked for any earlier dates?
              Somehow RTL found a March date for Vitaly-Solis.

              My question is why don't Wlad and Vitaly switch dates?

              Have Wlad-Chisora fight in March.

              Vitaly-Solis in April 30.

              And, that will give give him enough time to rest, promote and train for a Haye fight in July. And, if Haye still has a problem with that then he just is being a douche.

              But, is funny and strange that somehow Wlad could not have received the March date.

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              • WladIsTheChamp
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                #67
                Originally posted by cklmaced
                Still havent explained his injury that allows him play golf.
                He wasn't "playing" golf, he is doing a documentary on his life and he made a swing for the cameras. Hardly a big feat for a superb athlete with a small abdominal tear. Remember, Gayevid asked for 4, then 6, then 8 weeks to cure his back with "aggresive physiotherapy".

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Really? Because, only 1 year in the past 5 years he has fought more than 2x a year.

                  And, that year the 3 fights were schedules 5 months apart.

                  What you're talking about is what prospects do. This is now an elite level. Haye and Adamek are big fights. Fights that the U.S Market will want. So there will not only be press conference but there will also be tours even in the U.S.

                  Where would the time for all that occur when he is fighting every 8 weeks?

                  No, I'm sorry for whatever reason in this negotiation he had no intentions to fight Haye. Him fighting Chisora in late April and Adamek in September proves it.
                  Oh, are you out of it, or what? Chisora is nothing more then a security policy for Wlad that if Haye's fight will go sour, he will be making some money meanwhile. It is almost a tradition now that Haye pulls out ofa Klitschko fight. Chisora is NOt a dangerous fight for Wlad, and I was simply demonstrating the point that Wlad does not need 6 months off in between fights with guys like Chisora, as he clearly demonstrated in the past.
                  On top of that Chisora is a good way to stay on top of your form.
                  Wlad always strived to fight three time a year and it was either his opponents that needed 6 months to prepare(like Haye) or injuries that held him back.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by jrosales13
                    Somehow RTL found a March date for Vitaly-Solis.

                    My question is why don't Wlad and Vitaly switch dates?

                    Have Wlad-Chisora fight in March.

                    Vitaly-Solis in April 30.

                    And, that will give give him enough time to rest, promote and train for a Haye fight in July. And, if Haye still has a problem with that then he just is being a douche.

                    But, is funny and strange that somehow Wlad could not have received the March date.
                    He has a fight in September which they tried to play off as "any" Klitschko brother to hide the fact that it was clearly agreed upon days/weeks ago. And he'll be fighting in April then September like he normally does. He had no intention of fighting Haye which is surprising to me for sooo many reasons.

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                    • WladIsTheChamp
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      He has a fight in September which they tried to play off as "any" Klitschko brother to hide the fact that it was clearly agreed upon days/weeks ago. And he'll be fighting in April then September like he normally does. He had no intention of fighting Haye which is surprising to me for sooo many reasons.
                      Oh, you mean like Gayevid's behind the scenes negotiations with Valuev while negotiations with Vitaly were according to Gayevid himself "finalized all that needs to be done are the t's crossed and the i's dotted"? LOL You have selective memory just like all Gayevid defenders.

                      You see, if Gayevid really wanted the fight, he would have signed the fight with Wlad for July 2nd regardless, then if Wlad backed out or lost to Chisora, he could have said, see "I told you so". He can't do that now because he never agreed to the fight but Wlad did. So who backed out again?

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