Why the **** should Haye fight Chagaev?

[Bastian Loc]

But without them you are fucked. As a boxer, or as a citizen. Same goes for David Haye, if he is not to defend his title or unify it, he puts himself outside to scope of use and trust of the organization which he represents. Its only an exile then.

David Haye has media and cultural cache. He can operate outside of the linear rules imposed on him by those corrupt sacks of ****.

Other fighters have already done this in the past. Barrera, Pac etc.

They don't need corrupt organizations to validate their existence.

Haye doesn't either, because The People are behind him now.

[letsgobrady]

Who has Wlad fought that had a "pulse"..

Sultan Ibragimov?

ibragimov was winning fights and deserved a shot. what was ruiz doin leadin up to the haye fight?

[Squizz]

Chagaev was a beast until Wlad kicked his ass and his disease ended his run as a world-class fighter.

There's no "should" or "shouldn't" here, Chagaev is Haye's mandatory. You fight your mandatory or you vacate the title.

Exactly. If Haye wanted the fight so damn bad, he should just vacate the title. He's so full of S.H.I.T. it's coming out of his ears. He KNOWS he'll get torched by either Klitshcko.

[Squizz]

ibragimov was winning fights and deserved a shot. what was ruiz doin leadin up to the haye fight?

Absolutely nothing.

[Bastian Loc]

ibragimov was winning fights and deserved a shot. what was ruiz doin leadin up to the haye fight?

Beating Evander Holyfield?

[-PANDA-]

Please. Wlad has problems with lefties. He didn't want the fight to become Corrie Sanders version 2.0. He fought cautiously, yes. But he won, in a complete shutout. I fail to see what's wrong with that. You're just a hater.

if ure looking to unify world titles u dont fight like that..

panda didnt see anything wrong with that either...couldnt make it past the third round without falling asleep

my point is wlad has been given his career defining fight on a silver platter and he chooses to fight chisora instead...wlad is able to fight agressively but he chooses a safer approach instead...

wlad's an insecure guy unwilling to take risks...if u want to call me a hater because of that go right ahead but there's a perfectly valid reason for me thinking that and it was just given to u

[Squizz]

wlad's an insecure guy unwilling to take risks...if u want to call me a hater because of that go right ahead but there's a perfectly valid reason for me thinking that and it was just given to u

No, it's NOT a perfectly "valid reason". If a guy throws a shutout like Wlad did, and you still find something wrong with the way he fought, then you're simply grasping at straws. Therefore, that makes you a hater. Think about it this way: If you were a fighter would rather be a winner or entertaining? Come on man. Boxing is a SPORT. If you clamor for excitement so much, go watch WWE. You win however you can.

[letsgobrady]

Beating Evander Holyfield?

from 2005 till 2010 ruiz was 3-4 and 2 of those loses was to valuev and 1 of those loses was to chagaev

[letsgobrady]

Beating Evander Holyfield?

from 2005 till 2008 ibragamov was 8-1-1

[-PANDA-]

No, it's NOT a perfectly "valid reason". If a guy throws a shutout like Wlad did, and you still find something wrong with the way he fought, then you're simply grasping at straws. Therefore, that makes you a hater. Think about it this way: If you were a fighter would rather be a winner or entertaining? Come on man. Boxing is a SPORT. If you clamor for excitement so much, go watch WWE. You win however you can.

u seriously find it strange people werent impressed with the way wlad fought? even his own trainer emanuel steward is urging wlad to take more risks and avoid fighting that safety first style

boxers are entertainers...there is no scientific approach

tell me...is the fight of the year usually the most entertaining fight or the most decisive win?