Comments Thread For: Arum Responds To Marquez on Pacquiao Fight Claims

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arum said jmm priced himself out.
jmm claimed arum was lying.
the difference i saw was arum provided numbers while jmm did not.

arum said jmm earned $3.2 million plus $20,000 share in ppv...if those numbers are not accurate, jmm and golden boy can easily refute.

arum said jmm demanded $5 million plus $5 per ppv buys in excess of 500,000 to fight pac...again jmm can easily refute this numbers.

jmm can't just say arum is lying without providing numbers. how much did he really demanded for a pac fight? as long as he's not talking numbers, arum's words have more weight.

and for those people saying jmm deserved $5 million guarantee (could reach $7.5 million depending on ppv numbers), how can you justify that? for the floyd fight, jmm's earnings did not even reach $4 million even if you add the $600,000 weight penalty from floyd. what did jmm accomplished since losing to floyd that he deserved to earn double of what he earned in that fight?

[sapaw]

All I wanna hear is jmm say he didn't ask for more money then he got against floyd. If he says that then fine, we got a controversy. But up till now he hasn't said ****. If he really came to the table with "I want double what I got on the biggest pay day of my career" he deserved to get laughed out of the building.

I for one want to see a Pac/Marquez III. But i agree with you that Marquez most likely priced himself out of the fight. He could have easily said he never asked for more than his fight with floyd, but he didn't.

Basically, Marquez negotiated his fight with Pac as if he fought and won against floyd.

I totally agree with both of you.. I love to see JMM vs Pac III than this garbage Mosely fight, Im also waiting to hear that from JMM that he didnt ask that more payday than he ask from Floyd fight... IF he said that, then I will believe JMM than Arum.

If JMM WILL NOT directly say he did not ask that more payday, then its JMM's fault that JMM vs Pac III goes directly to Arum's garbage bag.

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arum said jmm priced himself out.
jmm claimed arum was lying.
the difference i saw was arum provided numbers while jmm did not.

arum said jmm earned $3.2 million plus $20,000 share in ppv...if those numbers are not accurate, jmm and golden boy can easily refute.

arum said jmm demanded $5 million plus $5 per ppv buys in excess of 500,000 to fight pac...again jmm can easily refute this numbers.

jmm can't just say arum is lying without providing numbers. how much did he really demanded for a pac fight? as long as he's not talking numbers, arum's words have more weight.

and for those people saying jmm deserved $5 million guarantee (could reach $7.5 million depending on ppv numbers), how can you justify that? for the floyd fight, jmm's earnings did not even reach $4 million even if you add the $600,000 weight penalty from floyd. what did jmm accomplished since losing to floyd that he deserved to earn double of what he earned in that fight?

good points man.

[mr_kamado10]

I for one want to see a Pac/Marquez III. But i agree with you that Marquez most likely priced himself out of the fight. He could have easily said he never asked for more than his fight with floyd, but he didn't.

Basically, Marquez negotiated his fight with Pac as if he fought and won against floyd.

exactly....Marquez demanded double of what he got from Floyd fight which he lost by total domination or a shutout...Floyd outclassed and toyed Marquez where it came to a point where Floyd dropped his defense by lowering his hands, exposing and inviting Marquez to hit his face but joke Marquez was not able to hit him for 12 complete round...Why Marquez asking an insane demand when he was a joke at higher weight?....he's not proven yet competitive at higher weight...fighting bum loser katsidis weights nothing as katsidis was already ko'd by old Casamayor and beaten by c class fighter diaz who had 5 loses on his last 6fights...Casa and diaz lost to Marquez and still marquez fought bum and loser katsidis...Now, he will fight his same size, faded and shot Morales whom Pacman KO'd twice...It seems Marquez is not serious to get a shot at Pacman by fighting Morales who Pacman already demolished....Khan, Maidana, Devon, Bradley, Ortiz are killing each other to have chance in landing a fight against Pacman while Marquez is feasting on his same size, faded and shot Morales whom Pacman already KO'd twice....Marquez also fought Barrera after Barrera was KO by Pacman...Marquez is fraud and its so obvious of pricing himself out of the fight and only wants his big last retirement payday which he doesn't deserve...

[mr_kamado10]

arum said jmm priced himself out.
jmm claimed arum was lying.
the difference i saw was arum provided numbers while jmm did not.

arum said jmm earned $3.2 million plus $20,000 share in ppv...if those numbers are not accurate, jmm and golden boy can easily refute.

arum said jmm demanded $5 million plus $5 per ppv buys in excess of 500,000 to fight pac...again jmm can easily refute this numbers.

jmm can't just say arum is lying without providing numbers. how much did he really demanded for a pac fight? as long as he's not talking numbers, arum's words have more weight.

and for those people saying jmm deserved $5 million guarantee (could reach $7.5 million depending on ppv numbers), how can you justify that? for the floyd fight, jmm's earnings did not even reach $4 million even if you add the $600,000 weight penalty from floyd. what did jmm accomplished since losing to floyd that he deserved to earn double of what he earned in that fight?

perfect post...keep it up

[victorythagr8]

exactly....Marquez demanded double of what he got from Floyd fight which he lost by total domination or a shutout...Floyd outclassed and toyed Marquez where it came to a point where Floyd dropped his defense by lowering his hands, exposing and inviting Marquez to hit his face but joke Marquez was not able to hit him for 12 complete round...Why Marquez asking an insane demand when he was a joke at higher weight?....he's not proven yet competitive at higher weight...fighting bum loser katsidis weights nothing as katsidis was already ko'd by old Casamayor and beaten by c class fighter diaz who had 5 loses on his last 6fights...Casa and diaz lost to Marquez and still marquez fought bum and loser katsidis...Now, he will fight his same size, faded and shot Morales whom Pacman KO'd twice...It seems Marquez is not serious to get a shot at Pacman by fighting Morales who Pacman already demolished....Khan, Maidana, Devon, Bradley, Ortiz and even Berto are killing each other to have chance in landing a fight against Pacman while Marquez is feasting on his same size, faded and shot Morales whom Pacman already KO'd twice....Marquez also fought Barrera after Barrera was KO Pacman...Marquez is fraud and its so obvious of pricing himself out of the fight and only wants his big last retirement payday which he doesn't deserve...

No he is not. Berto to busy fighting no name D class fighters.

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You fkn clown.

He is not defaming Marquez' character. WTF are you on kid?

Trainee law grad student? FAIL !!

Arum did not make defamatory statements you clown, he made an off-hand comment, in a quibble over he-said she-said, in a largely unimportant matter, to improve public perception over the joke Mosley/Pac fight.

Get a grip kid, you're trying to make out that this was some kind of official legal statement made in front of a grand jury.

How was Marquez defamed?

If it escalates to civil court, it would absolutely to be defamation of JMM's character!! You MORON!!! Arum is publicly claiming he has hard evidence (e-mails) that JMM is wrong and basically calling him a liar in public!! JMM's reps can claim that Arum is potentially damaging JMM's reputation, public image, marketability and earning power!! You are an IDIOT for believing it was an "off-hand comment"!!! If Arum is lying about the e-mails, JMM has to call him out!!

Back during the Pac-Floyd negotiations Teddy Atlas and the NY Daily News claimed they saw a su****ious e-mail by Pacquiao's camp about drug-testing!! Arum immediately called them out publicly to PRODUCE the e-mail and guess what.....Atlas and the newspaper COULDN'T!!! Atlas and the NY Daily News looked like a FOOLS!!! He killed that story dead in the water!!! JMM's is NOT calling Arum out and asking him to PRODUCE the e-mails!!!!

Arum's off-hand comments are not legally binding, he cannot be sued or charged with perjury/libel/slander, or any other rubbish that you may feel free to suggest.

LeadUppercut...you are a total azz-clown!! The term "legally binding" refers to AGREEMENTS, you DUMBASS!!!! I've never been to law school, but it's obvious i know more than your pathetic ass!!! False statements are libelous. Look up the word "libel"!!

You've been OWNED!!! Now go and try to change the subject or start naming calling as usual to deflect how WRONG YOU ARE!!!! LMAO

[BennyST]

nah man, jmm ain't getting anymore than he got for wifebeater. if jmm beat wifebeater, I'd say he deserves 60/40 maybe even 50/50. if jmm beat khan or timmeh/devon or berto, I'd say he'd deserve a little bit more than what he got for wifebeater... if jmm beat maidana and khan and timmeh devon winner and berto, I'd say he deserves 70/30 or 60/40.

but coming off a humiliating loss to wifebeater and whuppin on juan diaz who he already beat, and then whupping on katsidis doesn't get him more than what he got for wifebeater.

I mean c'mon!

Whereas coming off a bad loss to Cotto, a win over Margarito, another bad loss to Mayweather and the worst performance of his entire career against a Contender bum that he should have probably lost and in which he looked completely shot.....Mosley gets a guarantee of 5mil?

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Whereas coming off a bad loss to Cotto, a win over Margarito, another bad loss to Mayweather and the worst performance of his entire career against a Contender bum that he should have probably lost and in which he looked completely shot.....Mosley gets a guarantee of 5mil?

mosley got more for fighting wifebeater than jmm did right?

[LeadUppercut]

If it escalates to civil court, it would absolutely to be defamation of JMM's character!! You MORON!!! Arum is publicly claiming he has hard evidence (e-mails) that JMM is wrong and basically calling him a liar in public!! JMM's reps can claim that Arum is potentially damaging JMM's reputation, public image, marketability and earning power!! You are an IDIOT for believing it was an "off-hand comment"!!! If Arum is lying about the e-mails, JMM has to call him out!!

Back during the Pac-Floyd negotiations Teddy Atlas and the NY Daily News claimed they saw a su****ious e-mail by Pacquiao's camp about drug-testing!! Arum immediately called them out publicly to PRODUCE the e-mail and guess what.....Atlas and the newspaper COULDN'T!!! Atlas and the NY Daily News looked like a FOOLS!!! He killed that story dead in the water!!! JMM's is NOT calling Arum out and asking him to PRODUCE the e-mails!!!!




LeadUppercut...you are a total azz-clown!! The term "legally binding" refers to AGREEMENTS, you DUMBASS!!!! I've never been to law school, but it's obvious i know more than your pathetic ass!!! False statements are libelous. Look up the word "libel"!!

You've been OWNED!!! Now go and try to change the subject or start naming calling as usual to deflect how WRONG YOU ARE!!!! LMAO

You are an idiot, libel/slander has to be proven.

I will ask you again.....

..... how the *** did Arum defame Marquez you fkn Wally ?

How has JMM's future earning potential and marketability been affected ?