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  • mr_kamado10
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    #131
    Originally posted by Subtraction
    Why doesn't Pac fight Berto? Why does JMM have to fight Berto?

    JMM wants Pac, not Berto. Leave Berto out of it.

    You can cry about Morales, but were you crying about catchweights against Cotto, Oscar, and a faded and shot Margarito?

    How bout David Diaz? And a faded and shot Ricky Hatton?

    Were you crying then too?
    Margarito weigh in when he fought Mosley and Cotto were 145 and 146, respectively..
    Margarito weigh in at 150 against Pacman….if Margarito weight drained against Pacman then what did you call Margarito condition when he fought Cotto and Mosley weigh in 146 and 145,respectively????
    Margarito was the one who gained the advantage as he added +5pound of pure muscles and 17pounds weight advantage aside from 5inch height and 6inch reach advantage against Pacman…his weight helps keep him from standing…..

    Cotto weigh 145 when he fought Pacman.
    Cotto weigh 146 when he fought Clottey…1 pound difference?Big deal?
    No signicant difference…..
    Golden boy fight was held at 147…Not a catch-up weight…Both of them agreed at that weight at WW…..and Golden boy prepared for that as he hired his own nutritionist to track his weight condition

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    • wecreep
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      #132
      Originally posted by mr_kamado10
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      Truth be told, if Marquez really wanted to show the world that he is a worthy challenger to Manny Pacquiao and merits a second look after Pacquiao’s fight with Mosley, he should have picked Andre Berto or at the very least wait for the winner between Bradley and Alexander or fight Khan. These good fighters are fighting each other to get a chance to fight Pacman while Marquez is feasting on his same size, faded and shot Morales..... damn...Marquez is fraud....
      And give me one good reason why Pacman is not fighting any one of these "good fighters" instead of a shot mosley.Point out one fighter you mentioned that does not deserve a shot more so than a cheating margarito and former cheater and shopworn mosley?Convince us that any one of these "good fighters" is not better than d.diaz, hatton,or clottey and margarito.

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      • mr_kamado10
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        #133
        Originally posted by Subtraction
        Why doesn't Pac fight Berto? Why does JMM have to fight Berto?

        JMM wants Pac, not Berto. Leave Berto out of it.

        You can cry about Morales, but were you crying about catchweights against Cotto, Oscar, and a faded and shot Margarito?

        How bout David Diaz? And a faded and shot Ricky Hatton?

        Were you crying then too?
        Hatton only lost were against two top pound for pound fighters(Floyd and Pacman)...but Pacman bout was more significant as he fought Hatton at his comfortable weight 140 where Hatton was then a lineal champion....

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        • mr_kamado10
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          #134
          Originally posted by wecreep
          And give me one good reason why Pacman is not fighting any one of these "good fighters" instead of a shot mosley.Point out one fighter you mentioned that does not deserve a shot more so than a cheating margarito and former cheater and shopworn mosley?Convince us that any one of these "good fighters" is not better than d.diaz, hatton,or clottey and margarito.

          why not Marquez fought who Pacman fought at higher weight(Cotto, Clottey and Margarito) instead of feasting on his same size opponent,already shot and faded Morales who Pacman already disposed/ko...Why Marquez feasting on loser and bum katsids who already lost by KO against old Casamayor and beaten by c class fighter in Diaz who had already 5 loses on his last 6 fights(battered by Campbell and toyed by Malignaggi)..Marquez won against Casa and Diaz and still joke Marquez fought a loser, bum and limited skill katsidis.....Marquez only fought Barrera when barrera already lost by ko to Pacman...and now will be fighting his same size, faded and shot Morales who Pacman already KO twice....What a fraud

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          • wecreep
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            #135
            Originally posted by mr_kamado10
            Margarito weigh in when he fought Mosley and Cotto were 145 and 146, respectively..
            Margarito weigh in at 150 against Pacman….if Margarito weight drained against Pacman then what did you call Margarito condition when he fought Cotto and Mosley weigh in 146 and 145,respectively????

            Margarito was the one who gained the advantage as he added +5pound of pure muscles and 17pounds weight advantage aside from 5inch height and 6inch reach advantage against Pacman…his weight helps keep him from standing…..

            Cotto weigh 145 when he fought Pacman.
            Cotto weigh 146 when he fought Clottey…1 pound difference?Big deal?
            No signicant difference…..
            Golden boy fight was held at 147…Not a catch-up weight…Both of them agreed at that weight at WW…..and Golden boy prepared for that as he hired his own nutritionist to track his weight condition
            You're the only person in the world that doesn't know margarito was drained as hell in that mosley fight.The difference is he did it to himself and nothing should be taken from mosleys win.And if the catchweight against cotto is not significant then why have a catchweight at all?

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            • wecreep
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              #136
              Originally posted by mr_kamado10
              why not Marquez fought who Pacman fought at higher weight(Cotto, Clottey and Margarito) instead of feasting on his same size opponent,already shot and faded Morales who Pacman already disposed/ko...Why Marquez feasting on loser and bum katsids who already lost by KO against old Casamayor and beaten by c class fighter in Diaz who had already 5 loses on his last 6 fights(battered by Campbell and toyed by Malignaggi)..Marquez won against Casa and Diaz and still joke Marquez fought a loser, bum and limited skill katsidis.....Marquez only fought Barrera when barrera already lost by ko to Pacman...and now will be fighting his same size, faded and shot Morales who Pacman already KO twice....What a fraud
              You say diaz lost five of his last six fights?When in fact he only has a total of four losses.And he only had the one loss to campbell before marquez took him out in spectacular fashion.But I guess you're the kind that will discredit a fighter after one loss right?How many losses does pacman have again?But diaz can't be formidable after one loss?Believe me, I know none of this is reallt relevant to this thread but I think it highlights your general lack of knowledge in this game and your reactionary response to anything that does not serve your god pacman.

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                #137
                Originally posted by LeadUppercut

                Arum's off-hand comments are not legally binding, he cannot be sued or charged with perjury/libel/slander, or any other rubbish that you may feel free to suggest. Get a grip, he is a fkn bull**** artist, and it would not surprise me if he has been telling lies for more than twice your lifetime

                And if push came to shove, Arum could say he was.....
                a.) mis-quoted
                b.) inadvertently incorrect
                c.) " *** off, I lost the e-mails "
                You're a fool!! You can totally be sued in civil court for making false statements or claims publicly!!! If it goes to civil court and Arum says "I lost the e-mails", you think he gets off scott-free?? Arum will be force to pay JMM monetary damages for making false claims to the media to defame JMM's character!!!

                All lawyers are bull**** artists, but when they publicly claim to have documentation that would defame someone's character, they better produce it because they are opening the door wide-open to getting sued!!! All JMM/Golden Boy and Top Rank have to do is mutually agree to provide those corresponding emails as evidence!!

                The fact that JMM is not suing or calling Arum a liar about the e-mails PROVES that Arum is telling the truth!!

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                • THE TALK OF TX
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                  #138
                  all i can say team pac is a joke manny will be exposed soon as floyd handle his legal problems or maybe jmm will get his shot next to do it his self

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                  • ElMeroChingon
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                    #139
                    I'll never take Arum's word over Juan Manuel Marquez. Arum is a scumbag, lies about everything to put his dirty tactics in a good light. He's even been known to bribe people to get what he wants. JMM is one of the most respected fighters, and one of the best human beings in boxing. Takes care of his kids and family, religious(doesn't flaunt it as a selling point like other fighters), he's very well educated(was an accountant, i believe he finished his degree and worked for a year in that field) which he mentioned he loved to go to school, calls it like it is all the time, no BS.

                    Arum is a scumbag just like all the other promoters. He's a known Briber, and was whilling to admit that he would tell people about ODH's illegal substance use when he was in Top Rank, IF he continue to call out Manny Pacquiao in the same thing. ARUM IS A SCUMBAG JUST LIKE DON KING, ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE'S A HARVARD EDUCATED CROOK AND COVERS HIS TRACKS.



                    ^Here's Interesting read on Bob Arum. After reading this link i provide,what a coincidence that Marquez offer was a "fight Is a done Deal".

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                    • devildg
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by ElMeroChingon
                      I'll never take Arum's word over Juan Manuel Marquez. Arum is a scumbag, lies about everything to put his dirty tactics in a good light. He's even been known to bribe people to get what he wants. JMM is one of the most respected fighters, and one of the best human beings in boxing. Takes care of his kids and family, religious(doesn't flaunt it as a selling point like other fighters), he's very well educated(was an accountant, i believe he finished his degree and worked for a year in that field) which he mentioned he loved to go to school, calls it like it is all the time, no BS.

                      Arum is a scumbag just like all the other promoters. He's a known Briber, and was whilling to admit that he would tell people about ODH's illegal substance use when he was in Top Rank, IF he continue to call out Manny Pacquiao in the same thing. ARUM IS A SCUMBAG JUST LIKE DON KING, ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT HE'S A HARVARD EDUCATED CROOK AND COVERS HIS TRACKS.



                      ^Here's Interesting read on Bob Arum. After reading this link i provide,what a coincidence that Marquez offer was a "fight Is a done Deal".
                      I believe Arum. He said he has the emails to prove it. Why not ask Dan Rafael or some prominant writer to ask Arum to release the emails.

                      Then we'll know the truth, and I think Marquez will be humiliated.

                      He tried to present himself as wanting a 3rd fight, but in reality, it wasnt a big priority to him.

                      I don't know where these clowns are getting it...boxing isnt a charity case. Marquez has no fans, sells horribly at PPVs. Why not just accept the fight at Pac's terms?

                      He is probably just wasting his time as Pac has no desire to fight him too.

                      Who is he kidding trying to ask for this and that, BEGGARS CANT BE CHOOSERS.

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