Which fighter is most at fault: Wladimir Klitschko or David Haye?

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Who is most at fault for the fight not being officially confirmed?

Klitshcko:
- Both parties initially agreed to July 2nd date but Wlad has chosen to fight Chisora on April 30th. It's unlikely therefore that he'd fight Haye on July 2nd as things don't always go to plan, i.e. he could pick up an injury, want some time off so he can **** Hayden etc...
- He had a lot of demands but Haye agreed to them all.

Haye:
- Self-imposed retirement plan means time is "running out".
- However he agreed to all of Wlad's demands.
- Could fight his mandatory Chagaev in May in order to stay active.

Obviously Sky, RTL, and the Promoters are also culpable to certain extents but I want to gauge BoxingScene's consensus on who is most at fault between the 2 fighters.

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Wlad.... i have been calling Haye out before all this current bull **** came to light but its pretty clear now.

Wlad/Haye is THE fight at HW since Lewis/Vit

Why is Wlad signing to fight a very green british prospect? it forces Haye to fight Chaguev or lose his belt.

Haye/Chaguev and Wlad/Chisora mean NOTHING so why bother with them now.. when the real fight to be made is Wlad/Haye

Also add on to this.. that Wlad is now in talks to fight Adamek in september

It looks clear to me Wlad is to blame

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

Wlad got everything, I can't see how Haye is getting much of a deal... he even got it in Germany with German Doctors, with his Cousins as judges and momma as ref.

Wlad is at fault.

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its not rocket science is it! why did wlad even bother to negotiate? haye has let wlad fight him in germany yet wlad still signs to fight a bum instead. so what do you think!

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I've voted for Wlad too.

Rumours already flying around about him possibly fighting Adamek in Poland in September. In all likelihood the Haye fight won't go down so Wlad has his back up plan in place.

What a b*tch though. He'd travel to Poland, but wouldn't go to England, where more money would be made. Imagine 90,000+ people in Wembley Stadium - the biggest attendance ever for a fight. I'd be there too!

Imagine if the organisers could make it so that Germans/Ukrainians/Russians (Wlad supporters) get half of the tickets, so it would be 50-50 in terms of support in the venue. The atmosphere would be mental!

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^^Have to disagree with all you guys (maybe its because I'm sick of Davis Haye I dunno).

Haye has been d1cking everybody around a long time. He acts like he's some kind of saviour of the heavyweight division when he hasn't fought a halfway decent heavyweight since he won the belt. He comes out of negotiations callin gother fighters cowards when he could be getting a contract signed.

This man fought Harrison when he could have fought his mandatory and thus his belt would not be at risk and he could spend from now until July working out Wladimir.

He has only his own pathetic career minded ego to blame for his downfall. The Heavyweight division is not a pyramid scheme where you can talk yoru way to the top.

[BetterCallSaul]

Wlad is to blame.

Big fights like this involving multiple parties are highly difficult to arrange and come to terms on. However everything fell into place for July 2nd. But Wlad signed a fight with Chisora which makes it impossible for Haye to sign the July 2nd contract. Not only that, Wlad wouldn't be ready to fight only 8 weeks after fighting Chisora and Haye isn't going to fight so soon after fighting Chagaev. In addition to this, either Klitschko or Haye could pick up an injury in their respective fights which would force the July 2nd date to be cancelled. It's not worth taking on tune ups, or duck ups as Wlad should refer to them.

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Watch out now. Tunney's voted for Haye, no surprises there.

Tunney, care to explain why Haye is at fault if he agreed to all of Wlad's terms (German venue, German doctor, 50-50 split when Haye brings more money to the table, etc)????

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^^Have to disagree with all you guys (maybe its because I'm sick of Davis Haye I dunno).

Haye has been d1cking everybody around a long time. He acts like he's some kind of saviour of the heavyweight division when he hasn't fought a halfway decent heavyweight since he won the belt. He comes out of negotiations callin gother fighters cowards when he could be getting a contract signed.

This man fought Harrison when he could have fought his mandatory and thus his belt would not be at risk and he could spend from now until July working out Wladimir.

He has only his own pathetic career minded ego to blame for his downfall. The Heavyweight division is not a pyramid scheme where you can talk yoru way to the top.

so please tell me why instead of fighting haye on july 2, hes fighting a bum on april 30th when haye gave in to all his demands?

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I wonder who Steelhammer and the other Klit-ites would vote for... Hmmmmm