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  • Pacquiao'd
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    #21
    Originally posted by shogunn
    ODLH was NOT at a catchweight. They fought at 147, requested at ODLH's request.
    catch weight still, being that he hadnt fought there and years

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      #22
      Originally posted by NesNY
      The IQ level here has dipped exponentially since I first started lurking a year or so ago.

      Pacquiao brought Delahoya DOWN to 145?? You mean Pacquiao actually made Oscar Delahoya....boxing's golden egg and undisputed PPV king...concede to his demands? hahahah!!!

      Delahoya brought Manny UP to WW thinking he'd have a chance against the much smaller man. Pac had several 130lb fights, and ONE lightweight (135lb) fight with David Diaz before Delahoya asked him to move up to 145. So barring the Diaz fight...and read this clearly now...


      Delahoya brought Pacquiao up almost 15 lbs (weigh-in weight, not fight-night weight) thinking he'd impose his size on Manny. Huge mistake, as Roach hired Alex Ariza to make Pacquiao more muscular and heavier without losing too much speed.

      Cotto.....weighed 146lbs for his fight with Clottey...and was awarded a friendly SD. He and his trainers said making 145 wasn't so tough.

      I'm no Manny superfan, but I call it like it is. Catchweights have been around forever. Usually the smaller guy loses.

      And all it proves, in the end, is that the old addage remains tried and true.....

      STYLES MAKE FIGHTS! not weights
      so dlh was nice and healthy in there huh? *******s

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        #23
        Originally posted by British Pride
        Hopkins is a joke plain and simple. He has made a career of beating up little guys and he's called a legend for it.

        Tito never won a round against a fighter considered elite above 154 (schooled by Winky, Hopkins and Jones)
        Oscar got a gift decision against Felix Sturn, a fighter who pound for pound could not hold his strap.
        Winky was a fat mess, a career 154 fighter 16lbs above his natural weight
        Pavlik, the reigning MW king who got brought up 10lbs and didnt even rehydrate above 174lbs.

        Hopkins has good wins over Johnson and Tarver but everyhing else on his record is vastly overrated.

        He even tried to take Paul Williams up to 170lbs.

        Roy Jones exposed Hopkins on radio by saying when they spoke Hopkins plan was to beat smaller beatable fighters to build his name.
        just like pacroid whose career is based on fighting weight drain, fighters coming off loses whoa re stationary targets

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          #24
          Originally posted by £-4-£
          Why would ODLH weight-drain himself over 7pounds.

          ODLH weighed in at 145lbs. Check it on boxrec.

          Manny is the catch-weight King. It's scarred his legacy, weakening his opponents like that.

          What I don't understand is why he'd let Clottey weigh in at 147lbs, but he demanded Cotto fight at 145lbs. He obviously was trying to weaken a dangerous opponent like Cotto.

          Then he fights Margarito at 150lbs. Why didn't he let ODLH fight at 150


          Show me an article where it states ODLH requested to fight at 147. If I see it, I'll believe it and admit I was wrong.
          You don't need to go on box rec to know that fight was at 147. Did you just started watching boxing a year ago?

          Pac was coming up in weight you can't just jump from fighting once at 135 to 150. common sense homie. Then he went back down to 140 to fight Hatton then went back up to fight Cotto at 145 catchweight.

          Pac only fought DLH at 147 to get his biggest payday. As a boxing fan you should be thanking him for fighting at WW at all for these past years.

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          • Pullcounter
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            #25
            has hopkins had more catchweight fights than pac?

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              #26
              Originally posted by Pullcounter
              has hopkins had more catchweight fights than pac?
              Yes.......

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                #27
                Originally posted by yesir
                just like pacroid whose career is based on fighting weight drain, fighters coming off loses whoa re stationary targets
                **** Pacquiao

                Dunno what he has to do with midget beater being a ***** either.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by yesir
                  just like pacroid whose career is based on fighting weight drain, fighters coming off loses whoa re stationary targets
                  Yep, he drained Cotto a full lb less than his previous weigh-in. And Margarito was obviously a corpse at 150lbs (165 on the night)

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Vivid Intent
                    Yep, he drained Cotto a full lb less than his previous weigh-in. And Margarito was obviously a corpse at 150lbs (165 on the night)
                    if it didnt matter then he shouldnt have needed catchweights. roach is the master of we beat your on the scale before you even enter the ring.

                    catchweight king of the manny weights, ruler of the paperbelts

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