Comments Thread For: Erik Morales Wants Marquez Fight at The Lightweight Limit

[GlasJaw17]

If Marquez schooled Pac twice, and you claim that everyone knows about it, then why can't he just be satisfied with what he has accomplished? Why keep crying out for a third fight with Pac?

Fact is, he gave the then one-dimensional Pac two tough fights at featherweight and super-featherweight that could've gone either way, but were officially registered as a draw and a loss for JMM.

Fact is, since those fights, Pac has proven that he belongs at welterweight by whipping top WWs, except for Mosley (who he is fighting next), Berto (whose turn may come after Mosley), and the inactive Mayweather (who is on vacation).

Fact is, JMM failed to prove that he belongs to the WW division after his lopsided loss to Mayweather.

Fact is, since the Mayweather loss, JMM has only fought two B-level, one-dimensional, come-forward brawlers who had already been exposed by other opponents. He also showed a propensity for getting knocked down.

Fact is, JMM asked Top Rank for far more than what he previously received from GBP for fighting Floyd when he offered to fight Pac recently. The fact is that this was the third time that he out-priced himself when negotiating with Pac.

Fact is, Pac will whip JMM's ass so bad at JWW (if he feels charitable enough to grant JMM that) or WW that these same people asking for a trilogy will be ridiculing Pac for fighting another old, shot, faded and over-blown fighter.

Facts hurt.

Yup and if Pac signed to fight JMM, they'd all say he ducked Mosley and Berto. If he signed to fight Berto, they would say he ducked Mosley and JMM. He can't fight everyone at once.

[serv]

Co-fkn-sign.

Enough with the pac-whore's already, their doormat standards are a joke.

* First Pac demands 147 - Marquez immediately accepts
* Then Pac insists that $5mil is too much, but he pay's Shane $7mil
* the Pac insists that Marquez fight a genuine welterweight at 147 first

The only welter that Pac ever fought at 147 was..... Josh "punch me again" Clottey, the best sparring partner in pro-boxing

It is a joke the way Pacquiao avoids anyone even slightly threatening.

" I think Juan Manuel Marquez at 140 pounds would have made for the perfect big event given the Cinco de Mayo weekend date of the fight. It’s got everything: the heated rivalry storyline with their first two bouts, the competitive and entertaining style matchup, and the Mexican fan support. However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis "
http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2630/doug...riday_mailbag/

Lead if I tell you these things, what would you feel? . . .

"Lead you are nothing here at NSB. You are full of ****. Most of your post are fuc**ng garbage. You are a fa**ot. you know nothing about boxing... You are a weak minded poster pretending to be boxing expert...
Now give me fuc**ng green K."

Lead you are one those with sensible post but honestly man, If I said those things to you, would you give me green karma??? Exactly...

Now relate this to jmm's hurling of insults and taunts. Let us not talk about the weight and sharing issues in the pac/jmm3. Let us assume that these are non-issues. Do you honestly think Pac would be eager to give jmm a payday in spite of his taunts and insults? Would you blame pac for it?

I myself would like to see Pac/jmm 3. I said this numerous times in some of my post, but I honestly don't think its going to happen. Unless, jmm learns some classy approaches to land the pac rematch.

peace man.

[empiricix]

Co-fkn-sign.

Enough with the pac-whore's already, their doormat standards are a joke.

* First Pac demands 147 - Marquez immediately accepts
Marquez stipulated a catchweight of 143-14 lbs. in the bid sheet GBP submitted to Arum

* Then Pac insists that $5mil is too much, but he pay's Shane $7mil

Pac is not the one paying Mosley, Top Rank is. Arum is the one ******** that Mosley's additional 2M would be worth the additional PPV buys over what JMM can bring.

* the Pac insists that Marquez fight a genuine welterweight at 147 first

No one is insisting that JMM fight a welterweight since everyone knows that he has no business there. He is the one insisting that he can be competitive with today's WW-version of Pac. Hence, the burden is on him to prove it since he failed dismally once before.

The only welter that Pac ever fought at 147 was..... Josh "punch me again" Clottey, the best sparring partner in pro-boxing

Yeah, and what do you call Cotto at 145 on weigh-in and 150 plus at fight night? And if you don't consider Margarito a welterweight, then Pac did fight a junionr middleweight.

It is a joke the way Pacquiao avoids anyone even slightly threatening.

Yes, try to convince yourself that it is Pac who finds a fight with Mayweather threatening that's why May-never took a vacation.


" I think Juan Manuel Marquez at 140 pounds would have made for the perfect big event given the Cinco de Mayo weekend date of the fight. It’s got everything: the heated rivalry storyline with their first two bouts, the competitive and entertaining style matchup, and the Mexican fan support. However, this fight only makes sense to me if it takes place at junior welterweight (and I would hope Marquez would weigh-in under 140 pounds). Why Pacquiao and company refuse to even consider fighting Marquez at 140 pounds (instead of the 144 or 147 they stipulate) is a very good question. The answer is obvious: they want every conceivable advantage against their aging but still-dangerous nemesis "

People can't see the plain and simple truth of this matter. Pac does not feel any obligation to be charitable to Marquez either by giving him a payday or fighting him at a lower catchweight, not after the way Marquez disrespected him. Marquez needs to accept that he cannot dictate the terms; he can only accept what is given to him.

http://www.ringtv.com/blog/2630/doug...riday_mailbag/

This is the typical bull**** of *****s and haters - using half-truths and outright lies to convince themselves that they are justified in hating Pac.

[lebrick]

easy tune up for jmm erik is getting ktfo

all your points, Erik wont get KOed..

[Rolaz]

So Marquez has to fight a young fast undefeated champ in order to get a fight with pac when Pac has NEVER not at flyweight not at featherweight not at any weight beat a young top undefeated fighter on a role. I'm calling b s on this argument for pac****.

What you gonna do if all these Boxers: Champ and ex champ all want to fight Pacman? such as Bradley, Berto, Mosley, Marquez and even Mayorga or even Martinez.

You can't satisfy them all, unless you make some sort of elimination bout in determining the next opponent of Pacman. Marquez been stucked at 135 lbs.

He should fight Champions that also wants to fight Pacman to prove his worth.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

JMM is Frickin' 37 years old, there's only so much he can do.

[Sugar Q]

and fighting sugar -shot-mosley beating him and paying him more than jmm was asking , only exposes pac is a chickenshiaat fraud with endless excuses as to why he wont even defend his honor!guy has no dignity. instead of providing us with a fight wed all love to see,with two- way action ACTUAL COMPETETION, we get a ****in mosley matchup ! a 40 yr -old guy coming off losses lookin like crap washed -up.a winless in 2 years mosley. how u can defend that just shows , ur not really a fan of boxing,ur justa pac fanatic. a 3rd jmm fight is good for boxing , this fight is just pure garbage really I hope no-one buys it ,from top to bottom its money pac and his promotor dont deserve. this is just getting ridiculous and obnoxious, anyone thats a threat to pac wont get the time of day.U cant even legitamatley say crap about Mayweather! at least he fought mosley while pac was duckin him . "hes too good"- freddie roach. -excuse pac and his team shamlessly gave for ducking mosley 2 years ago, when he last looked good.mosley loses, looks terrible against a c-class fighter, pac says bring on molsey!!!

Excellent post my dude. We all need to be reminded how great the all time great were. Pac indeed has 0 dignity because a true champion would prove he's clean and would definitely wanna set the record straight with JMM.

[Sugar Q]

What you gonna do if all these Boxers: Champ and ex champ all want to fight Pacman? such as Bradley, Berto, Mosley, Marquez and even Mayorga or even Martinez.

You can't satisfy them all, unless you make some sort of elimination bout in determining the next opponent of Pacman. Marquez been stucked at 135 lbs.

He should fight Champions that also wants to fight Pacman to prove his worth.

So make eliminations for fighters that truly deserve a fight but the ones coming off losses get the so called prized fight? This site should eliminate foolishness from it. Margarito gets viciously KO'd then comes back after being suspended for cheating but gets A shot at a title in a division he doesn't have a case in. Very funny. Guys that advocates Manny BS have to be his lovers cause this is utter madness. Even the name Manny is **** to me.

[dondonatello]

Marquez is cherry picking a fighter that was shot and retired
After he lost 4 in a row, two by KO.
That was around 3 years ago.
Marquez is now a BUM!!
Juanita, go out and fight Berto, you bum!
Stop fighting a cripple.
And this bum thinks he can fight the FOTD???

Berto would make Marquez beg !
He would get a bigger beating than what Maynever gave him.
I hope he never get a fight with Pacquiao.
Bum-fights are for video release only.

[bluetuazon]

If Marquez schooled Pac twice, and you claim that everyone knows about it, then why can't he just be satisfied with what he has accomplished? Why keep crying out for a third fight with Pac?

Fact is, he gave the then one-dimensional Pac two tough fights at featherweight and super-featherweight that could've gone either way, but were officially registered as a draw and a loss for JMM.

Fact is, since those fights, Pac has proven that he belongs at welterweight by whipping top WWs, except for Mosley (who he is fighting next), Berto (whose turn may come after Mosley), and the inactive Mayweather (who is on vacation).

Fact is, JMM failed to prove that he belongs to the WW division after his lopsided loss to Mayweather.

Fact is, since the Mayweather loss, JMM has only fought two B-level, one-dimensional, come-forward brawlers who had already been exposed by other opponents. He also showed a propensity for getting knocked down.

Fact is, JMM asked Top Rank for far more than what he previously received from GBP for fighting Floyd when he offered to fight Pac recently. The fact is that this was the third time that he out-priced himself when negotiating with Pac.

Fact is, Pac will whip JMM's ass so bad at JWW (if he feels charitable enough to grant JMM that) or WW that these same people asking for a trilogy will be ridiculing Pac for fighting another old, shot, faded and over-blown fighter.

Facts hurt.

^^^^^^^this.........


facts indeed!!