Mexicans only down to Canelo??? We have over 10 world champions right now!!!!

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  • RIZO24
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    #61
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    OK, lets say you right explain to me when Cotto got stripped or vacated the WBA title to name Rigoberto Alvarez the interim champion?
    Did you not understand? I said an interim champion might be appointed if a fighter vacates or gets stripped, I never said Cotto vacated or got stripped, It goes either or, Your partially right and im partially right!!!

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    • Shadows
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      #62
      Originally posted by el20cuatro
      Look it up homie!! Get your facts straight, yeah I know Championships change hands almost every month, I might be a little out dated on my facts but there might be more Mexican champions than I Had originally counted!!
      You're counting both Segura and Hilares as the WBO champ at 108. And the WBA 105 champ is Thai.

      You're counting minor belts.

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      • jrosales13
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        #63
        Originally posted by el20cuatro
        look man I know you I have seen some of your post! I have argued with you before even using some explicit writing, I know what you are all about, Yeah here and there you act cool and praise a Mexican fighter but most of the time you always find a way to discredit or lessen a Mexican fighter!! I am not no rookie to boxing dude WTF and I can also see right through you man!!
        My response was to your response of telling Shadows, stop hating. When he wasn't hating at all.

        @ your other crap.

        Show me where I discredit a Mexican fighter who didn't deserve and even when they do like Margarito I defend him.

        The only ones that you can say I discredit is really Alvarez(Cuz' I don't see they hype) and that is it...Every other high profile Mexican fighter, I actually like.

        So what exactly do you see? Elaborate please. How do I discredit or lessen a Mexican fighter? I mean if what you say is true, it would be easy to go find a post no? Or at the very least give me an example.

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        • RIZO24
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          #64
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          My response was to your response of telling Shadows, stop hating. When he wasn't hating at all.

          @ your other crap.

          Show me where I discredit a Mexican fighter who didn't deserve and even when they do like Margarito I defend him.

          The only ones that you can say I discredit is really Alvarez(Cuz' I don't see they hype) and that is it...Every other high profile Mexican fighter, I actually like.

          So what exactly do you see? Elaborate please. How do I discredit or lessen a Mexican fighter? I mean if what you say is true, it would be easy to go find a post no? Or at the very least give me an example.
          Look dude, didnt you comment on a post that Valero and Sal Sanchez were equal in terms of wasted talent or loss to boxing, You said they were equal, That was so direspectful comparing a ATG to a 28 year old prospect at best!!GTFOH

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          • CumulousClouds
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            #65
            Mexico also has Mexican American Frankie gomez and Jose benavidez Jr they both undefeated but still real young but they also could be future world champs!

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            • Mr. Fantastic
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              #66
              Originally posted by IdNod4u2
              With close to 110 Million Mexicans and over 10 million Mexican American....I'm not surprised at all.
              And this ****** ass chump has the nerve to call everyone a hater. Here he is, in a thread no one was talking anything about him or Ricans and he started to talk smack. Hypocrite much motherfucker?

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              • Dagomba
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                #67
                It's no secret that Mexico is a top country in Boxing. Also it is a common mistake to say that boxing is Mexico's pastime. That's far from the truth.
                Why argue?

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                • jrosales13
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by el20cuatro
                  Look dude, didnt you comment on a post that Valero and Sal Sanchez were equal in terms of wasted talent or loss to boxing, You said they were equal, That was so direspectful comparing a ATG to a 28 year old prospect at best!!GTFOH
                  No, what I said was that Salvador Sanchez was the bigger tragic lost. But, he accomplished so much that I don't think he wasted his talent. That he was not only a HOF'er but an ATG. Yes he could have accomplished more but he accomplished so much in such a short period that he didn't waste his talent IMO. But, it was a bigger tragic lost.

                  Valero had talent, power, solid speed, underrated boxing IQ. However, he didn't accomplish anything, so he was a waste of talent. He is not a HOF'er, he was not even a P4P level fighter while he was alive. Sanchez was lost was more tragic but Valero was wasting his talent while he was alive. And, my belief is that Sanchez accomplished ATG status that it wasn't really a waste of talent, while Valero which had talent wasn't even close to any great accomplishments.

                  That is what I said. And, never really compared them. I answered a question that was asked. Never once did I put them on the same level. I just basically one guy didn't waste his talent cuz he accomplished true greatness while the other guy didn't accomplish anything.

                  Go back and read that post and tell me how was I comparing the 2 or hating. Especially me hate on Chava GTFOH.

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                  • BG_Knocc_Out
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                    #69
                    Fighter as an individual > Their nationality

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                    • RIZO24
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      No, what I said was that Salvador Sanchez was the bigger tragic lost. But, he accomplished so much that I don't think he wasted his talent. That he was not only a HOF'er but an ATG. Yes he could have accomplished more but he accomplished so much in such a short period that he didn't waste his talent IMO. But, it was a bigger tragic lost.

                      Valero had talent, power, solid speed, underrated boxing IQ. However, he didn't accomplish anything, so he was a waste of talent. He is not a HOF'er, he was not even a P4P level fighter while he was alive. Sanchez was lost was more tragic but Valero was wasting his talent while he was alive. And, my belief is that Sanchez accomplished ATG status that it wasn't really a waste of talent, while Valero which had talent wasn't even close to any great accomplishments.

                      That is what I said. And, never really compared them. I answered a question that was asked. Never once did I put them on the same level. I just basically one guy didn't waste his talent cuz he accomplished true greatness while the other guy didn't accomplish anything.

                      Go back and read that post and tell me how was I comparing the 2 or hating. Especially me hate on Chava GTFOH.
                      If you were a real boxing fan you would know not to even have Valero in the same answer to a ****** question like that , Clearly Sal Sanchez was the clear wasted talent and tragic loss to boxing!! Just implyin that he didnt waste his talent is ******!! he was still fairly young and could of developed more talent. He was an ATG,

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