Re-watching Pacquiao vs DLH

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    #31
    Originally posted by jrosales13
    You're making it seem like Pac ducked or was avoiding Marg. When that was never the case at all.
    According to -Top Rank- and Freddie Roach he wanted the fight after the DLH fight. That wasn't the case at all. Both of them are liars making up false facts to seem Pacquiao look like he's legitimate. Not the case.

    Your argument makes sense.

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    • Schmerzen
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      #32
      Originally posted by HandSpeed303
      Oscar did have a tune up fight. Against Forbes, at 150. A weight he made easy (let him tell it).

      He probaly figured three more pounds was nothing, not to mention fair. I here you though, can't really blame Pac for taking the fight. At the sametime, no one (except Die hard Pac fans) thought Pac would win. So he does deserve a fair amount of credit imo.
      he weighed 145lbs vs manny, if 3 pounds are nothing, why did pacquiao fight marga at 151 catchweight?

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        #33
        Originally posted by T3dBundy
        oscar was fighting for 8 years at jmw, he even moved up to 160 to fight sturm.
        its like pac fighting 5more years at welter, and then he suddenly moves down to 140 again without even having a tune-up fight first.
        Or like Glen Johnson moving back down to 168 after so many years to compete in a S6 tourney without any tune up?

        Originally posted by T3dBundy
        i knew oscar would be weight drained,
        I take your word for it. If that is really what you were saying before the fight then more power to you. Because, at hindsight is always a lot easier to look at a fight.

        However, even though you felt that way you should recognize that Pac was not suppose to win that fight. Oscar was cherry picking a LW if that wasn't the case then what was the outrage about?

        Originally posted by T3dBundy
        pac cant stop clottey, no way he stops a healthy version of oscar.
        never.
        everyone would have fought oscar, i said this before, i am definitely not blaming pac for fighting him .
        but he gets too much credit for that fight, this whole little guy nonsense doesnt work with me.
        oscar couldnt handle 147 anymore,pac can, and he proved this more than once.
        And, for your last line that was after the case. Hence I'm wondering if you looking at it in hindsight or going into the fight. Pac hadn't proved anything going into the fight at all about how he could compete at WW. Matter of fact this was considered a tune for Oscar at WW.
        Last edited by jrosales13; 01-01-2011, 03:38 PM.

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          #34
          I don't know why anyone criticizes Pac for his part in this fight. Oscar tried taking candy from a baby and the baby ****d him.

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            #35
            Yeah, but Pac needed a catchweight to beat Oscar.

            He would've lost if Oscar didnt' have to spend all camp making weight. He shouldn't get any credit for the Oscar win.

            I think even Jrosales13 could've knocked out Oscar that night.

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              #36
              Originally posted by T3dBundy
              he weighed 145lbs vs manny, if 3 pounds are nothing, why did pacquiao fight marga at 151 catchweight?
              I was saying that is maybe what Oscar thought. I don't get paid by fighters, so I don't know how to aswer questions like that (about the catch weight of 151).

              You are also correct about the weight, it was 145, my bad. Oscar is more the blame than Pac in this case...I really can't see how he isn't to some.

              I still give Pac full credit for the win. It's not even a question for me, and i'm no "*******".

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                #37
                Originally posted by T3dBundy
                he weighed 145lbs vs manny, if 3 pounds are nothing, why did pacquiao fight marga at 151 catchweight?
                Handspeed didn't say 3lbs were nothing. He said Oscar probably felt 3lbs were nothing. Reading comprehension my dude.

                And, again Oscar was going down to 147 to have a rematch with Floyd.

                Oscar was thinking about going down to 147 a year prior Pac was even in the picture.

                Hence why HS said "Oscar probably felt" it wasn't a big deal.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by RubenSonny
                  I don't know why anyone criticizes Pac for his part in this fight. Oscar tried taking candy from a baby and the baby ****d him.
                  Pretty much.

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                  • Khalid X
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-
                    According to -Top Rank- and Freddie Roach he wanted the fight after the DLH fight. That wasn't the case at all. Both of them are liars making up false facts to seem Pacquiao look like he's legitimate. Not the case.

                    Your argument makes sense.
                    After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar Manny said he wanted to fight Margarito.

                    I mean this is common knowledge but whatever.....

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                      After Manny Pacquiao beat Oscar Manny said he wanted to fight Margarito.

                      I mean this is common knowledge but whatever.....
                      Video proof? I have proof of him saying if he were to win to go down to 140. DID HE WANT TO DRAIN TONY TO 140!? I BELIEVE SO!

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