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  • fdotorres
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    #41
    Originally posted by Libra_Por_Libra
    Bull****. Manny is now a full legit WW. Floyd was consider a small WW for a few years and now people consider him a "big" WW.
    so a 144.6 pound JMW is a full WW?

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      #42
      Here is when Ring came out about Oscar thinking about going down to 147.



      It was in 2005, even back then he was thinking about going back down...He just had to have the right cherry picked, tune up, opponent to have his first fight there. He finally found one in a LW Pac(Who was only at 135 for just one fight) but the plan backfired on his sorry ass.

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        #43
        Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-
        According to -Top Rank- and Freddie Roach he wanted the fight after the DLH fight. That wasn't the case at all. Both of them are liars making up false facts to seem Pacquiao look like he's legitimate. Not the case.

        Your argument makes sense.
        Okay lets take a trip down memory lane

        As mentioned by Jrose, Margarito wanted Oscar but DLH tried to cherry pick Manny instead of honoring his word by facing the Cotto vs Margarito winner like he originally stated. Marg destroyed Cotto and was percieved as the most dangerous WW's in boxing.


        12-6-2008-Manny beats Oscar, shocking many experts.

        After Pacquiao beat Oscar, Margarito stated that he would love to fight Manny. This is what started the Pac vs Margarito talk amongst boxing experts

        Here is the article (12-9-2008) on it:
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        People then started tossing the idea of Manny fighting other top WW's and here is Arum's response:

        12-20-2008
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        Arum stated-"No way in hell would I ever make that fight"

        In response to a lot of the talk about a potential matchup Manny Pacquiao stated he would love to face Margarito and even said he would beat him

        Here is the article, and what I was referring to earlier:
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        The date of this was 1-7-2009, right after the Oscar fight and prior to Margarito facing Mosley, which was on 1-24-2009.

        In the week leading up to Mosley vs Margarito, Arum changed his stance on the fight (Pac vs Marg)
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        Unfortunately Mosley destroyed Margarito, and Tony got suspending for the infamous handwrap scandal, thus killing the fight.

        So I provided several articles as proof as to Manny wanted Margarito after the Oscar fight took place.

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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Here is when Ring came out about Oscar thinking about going down to 147.



          It was in 2005, even back then he was thinking about going back down...He just had to have the right cherry picked, tune up, opponent to have his first fight there. He finally found one in a LW Pac(Who was only at 135 for just one fight) but the plan backfired on his sorry ass.
          Also here is an August 31,2007 ESPN interview by Dan Rafael

          Fresh off a split-decision loss to Floyd Mayweather, Oscar De La Hoya is ready to climb back into the ring -- as a welterweight, writes Dan Rafael.


          Businessman and family man Oscar De La Hoya is keeping himself awfully busy these days, but not too busy to think about his next move as a fighter.
          His promotional company, Golden Boy, is involved in several of the fall's most notable matches, namely Juan Manuel Marquez-Rocky Juarez (Sept. 15), Manny Pacquiao-Marco Antonio Barrera II (Oct. 6), Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley (Nov. 10), Joan Guzman-Humberto Soto (Nov. 17) and Floyd Mayweather-Ricky Hatton (Dec. 8).
          There was his recent taping of an appearance on the Sept. 11 episode of ESPN's "The Contender."
          His wife, Millie, is pregnant with their second child together.
          His business empire, in addition to his promotional company, is thriving.
          He could also probably spend every minute of the rest of his life counting the millions he's earned, including an estimated $30 million-plus for his May 5 split-decision loss to Mayweather.
          But De La Hoya (38-5, 30 KOs), who has won 10 world title belts in six divisions, has no immediate plans to stop fighting and is thinking about his ring return, targeted for May 3, 2008.
          And when he does return, De La Hoya said that he will be back in the welterweight division he once dominated before moving up to junior middleweight and taking a two-fight stab at middleweight.
          "Nothing is set in stone about who I'm going to fight," De La Hoya told ESPN.com in a recent interview. "Right now, I'm plotting these fights [that Golden Boy is promoting], keeping myself busy and spending time with my family. I won't decide who I am going to fight until I see how things unfold [in the fall], but I will be back at welterweight, that's for sure."
          His last eight fights have come at either junior middleweight or middleweight and he hasn't fought at 147 pounds since stopping Arturo Gatti in the fifth round on March 24, 2001. So why go back?
          "I can make the weight no problem, easy," De La Hoya said. "And I think because of the names in the division, the matchups."
          The weight class is loaded with such stars as Mayweather, Mosley, Cotto, Hatton, Paul Williams, Kermit Cintron and Antonio Margarito.

          Whoever gets the lottery ticket to face De La Hoya next, he said he doesn't want to have to chase his opponent around like he did with Mayweather. It was a fight in which De La Hoya was the aggressor as he stalked the pound-for-pound king and tried to use his size advantage to his benefit. Mayweather, however, was too elusive and did enough to avoid big punches while outboxing De La Hoya to win a close fight.
          "I really do want to be involved in one of these fights where it goes down in history. I want to be involved in one of those fights like [Diego] Corrales-[Jose Luis] Castillo, a war," De La Hoya said.
          So at age 34 (35 by the time he fights), he really wants to be in a fight where his pretty face gets messed up?
          "I don't mind," he said. "I've been bruised up in previous fights. I really want that kind of fight before I'm done, especially at this stage of my career because I still can. We'll have to wait and see who's out there, but I want to prove it to myself and be in one of those legendary fights, I really do. I haven't been in those wars throughout my career. I feel great and I don't think one would hurt. What a way to go out."
          One fighter, however, De La Hoya has no intention of fighting is Cotto, even if he defeats Mosley, De La Hoya's one-time ring rival and current partner in Golden Boy.
          "I promised my wife I wouldn't fight any Puerto Ricans," he said, noting that he lives with Millie in her native Puerto Rico, where she is a pop music star. "So, I don't think so. The fight would be great. We would stand toe-to-toe. But I can't do it. It's not because I would be afraid of Cotto or not want to fight. I think it's out of respect for Millie. I've had these fights and she's been supportive even though she has wanted me to retire. It's my turn to give a little something back. She sincerely asked me not to fight Puerto Rican fighters. So I have to respect that."

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            #45
            No video, no proof...*******s!

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              #46
              Originally posted by T3dBundy
              oscar was fighting for 8 years at jmw, he even moved up to 160 to fight sturm.
              its like pac fighting 5more years at welter, and then he suddenly moves down to 140 again without even having a tune-up fight first.
              i knew oscar would be weight drained, pac cant stop clottey, no way he stops a healthy version of oscar.
              never.
              everyone would have fought oscar, i said this before, i am definitely not blaming pac for fighting him .
              but he gets too much credit for that fight, this whole little guy nonsense doesnt work with me.
              oscar couldnt handle 147 anymore, pac can, and he proved this more than once.
              Oscar had a tune-up fight though and it was at 150. Maybe the fight should have been at a catchweight of 150?

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                #47
                dude nice observation but you should be shot for no knowing who emanuel steward is

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Subtraction
                  Pacquiao ain't no welterweight man. All the guys he fought also rehydrated in the 140's.

                  But one thing jumps out of that strip.

                  I'm starting to think Clottey and Cotto both had rehydration clauses because HBO leaves out the fight night weights in their graphics.

                  I always thought Cotto looked to damn small in that fight. I can't believe they made him do that.

                  smfh.. Pac is a ruthless prick.
                  lol at this ****** guy. the fight night weight wasnt shown when cotto and clottey fought each other. did they both require weight clauses on each other? GTFO dumbass. cotto looked the same at 154 as he did in his fight with pac

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by handspeed303
                    no video, no proof...*******s!
                    lmao...........

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                      Okay lets take a trip down memory lane

                      As mentioned by Jrose, Margarito wanted Oscar but DLH tried to cherry pick Manny instead of honoring his word by facing the Cotto vs Margarito winner like he originally stated. Marg destroyed Cotto and was percieved as the most dangerous WW's in boxing.


                      12-6-2008-Manny beats Oscar, shocking many experts.

                      After Pacquiao beat Oscar, Margarito stated that he would love to fight Manny. This is what started the Pac vs Margarito talk amongst boxing experts

                      Here is the article (12-9-2008) on it:
                      Stay updated with the latest boxing news, fight results, interviews, and rankings. Get real-time coverage of upcoming bouts, analysis, and exclusive insights from the world of boxing.


                      People then started tossing the idea of Manny fighting other top WW's and here is Arum's response:

                      12-20-2008
                      Stay updated with the latest boxing news, fight results, interviews, and rankings. Get real-time coverage of upcoming bouts, analysis, and exclusive insights from the world of boxing.


                      Arum stated-"No way in hell would I ever make that fight"

                      In response to a lot of the talk about a potential matchup Manny Pacquiao stated he would love to face Margarito and even said he would beat him

                      Here is the article, and what I was referring to earlier:
                      Stay updated with the latest boxing news, fight results, interviews, and rankings. Get real-time coverage of upcoming bouts, analysis, and exclusive insights from the world of boxing.


                      The date of this was 1-7-2009, right after the Oscar fight and prior to Margarito facing Mosley, which was on 1-24-2009.

                      In the week leading up to Mosley vs Margarito, Arum changed his stance on the fight (Pac vs Marg)
                      Stay updated with the latest boxing news, fight results, interviews, and rankings. Get real-time coverage of upcoming bouts, analysis, and exclusive insights from the world of boxing.



                      Unfortunately Mosley destroyed Margarito, and Tony got suspending for the infamous handwrap scandal, thus killing the fight.

                      So I provided several articles as proof as to Manny wanted Margarito after the Oscar fight took place.
                      That's all nice and dandy but I don't listen to anything the media says. They're corrupt as hell. Sorry. No video, no proof. I can easily start my own website and say Manny is on Power Pellets and post fake "proof" and it would go nuts. I have video evidence of HIM saying he's gonna go down to 140 if he were to win. So that means Margarito had to go down to 140 mister.

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