if manny beatys floyd and martinez hes #1 atg

**Las Vegas,** · 12-31-2010, 10:46 PM

No he wouldn't. He'd be top 10 though.

**jake stevens** · 12-31-2010, 10:46 PM

barrera*2
moralas*3
cotto
margarito
oscar
hatton
marquez*2
floyd
martinez

8 weight champ

4 times linear champ

fighter of the year several times

fighter of the decade

**jake stevens** · 12-31-2010, 10:47 PM

Originally posted by [KLTP] -Kirby-

No he wouldn't. He'd be top 10 though.

how could you rank anyone aherad of him?? nd whos done more than him,name a resume better than that

**Khalid X** · 12-31-2010, 10:47 PM

Who's alt is this?

**Tuavale** · 12-31-2010, 10:49 PM

It'd be pretty damn special. And NOT an impossibility. Floyd easy, Martinez would be tougher. He's a big cat with lots of speed. But Pac is so gifted and special, he might just find a way.

**jake stevens** · 12-31-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by -Top Rank-

Who's alt is this?

alt?

dispute my point

**PrinceCharlez** · 12-31-2010, 10:49 PM

Originally posted by jake stevens

no questions asked..how could you debate that

1)He wont fight Floyd because he scared to test random
2) If he fights martinez it will be at a catch weight of 135 smh

**FeFist** · 12-31-2010, 10:51 PM

Because there are fighers with greater accomplishments.
Ali-Patterson, Liston, Norton, Foreman, Fraizer.
SRL- Hearns, Haggler, Duran, Wilferdo Benitez.

Same applies to a few fighters where they simply have a greater number of wins over a greater number of ATG opposition.

It'd be fair to have him from 15-5.

Also I have said this before and I will say it again people over hype fighters moving up in weight class, with regards to Pacquiao he has grown into the Welterweight frame so he doesn't get extra acclaim in my books for fighting in that weight class. What'd I'd be prepared to give him props for is the level of opposition he fights when moving up. At Welterweight only his win against Cotto impressed me.

His resume at 135 and 140lbs is garbage.

**Las Vegas,** · 12-31-2010, 10:52 PM

I'm debating whether this guy is a troll or infact he's just a *******.

if manny beatys floyd and martinez hes #1 atg