Comments Thread For: Floyd Mayweather Jr: The Great Disappointment

[JK1700]

Floyd is an utter waste of talent.

Imagine all those gifts yet he has no balls to step up.

Floyd is a discredit to the sport.

Floyd has beaten 15 world champions. You have no argument.

Do you realise just how ****** you made yourself look?

[JSS]

This is a Timeline of TEAM PAC & TOP RANK comments directly after the Miguel Cotto fight in 2009
December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general.

Where is the presidence for Pacquiao to take a blood test? Just some speculation from an old man? Wow.

[Baba Konuwa]

This article definitely sums up Mayweather's career and legacy as of now it will be full of what if's, he's killing his legacy and can't blame anybody but himself when his careers over and he doesn't get the respect he will regret not doing things differently.

[JK1700]

This article definitely sums up Mayweather's career and legacy as of now it will be full of what if's, he's killing his legacy and can't blame anybody but himself when his careers over and he doesn't get the respect he will regret not doing things differently.

Mayweather has beat 15 world champions.

That's more than the so called "Top 3 ATG" Pacroid.

[mathed]

Floyd???????

[JSS]

Mayweather has beat 15 world champions.

That's more than the so called "Top 3 ATG" Pacroid.

Fraud just talks, while Manny fights. Enough said.

[JK1700]

Fraud just talks, while Manny fights. Enough said.

Tell me *******, what defines a "fraud" to you?

Is it the guy who is willing to prove he is clean and fight the best fighters at their real weight? Or the guy who is unwilling to prove he is clean and fights people coming off losses and drains them down to catchweights?

It seems pretty obvious to me that Pacroid is the fraud!

[Spoon23]

when the dust has settled on their careers and most of us are old and the new generation of "internet experts" are on boxingscene they will look over the career of floyd and say "this guy didnt fight, cotto, margarito, clottey, pacquiao" and that's just in the WW division whilst pacquiao pretty much cleaned it out..

i think floyd beats manny but i would love nothing more then to see floyd KO'd because of the way he has treated boxing as his pet thing with little or no respect for the fans putting money in his pocket...floyd is a dissapointment of recent years, a real dissapointment.
whilst some of mannys opponents will always be questioned because of the ****** catch weights and dodgy belts that are always vacant for him, the truth is he is a smaller man beating up bigger people and people love that ****, people love action and KO's and he delivers.

the boxer that could easily have been the best of his generation and possible the greatest ever has literally pissed it all away by avoiding tough fights to protect his EGO & Zero.

That's raps it up in a nut-shell. But I still see pac vs floyd as a 50/50 fight

[Spoon23]

Lol at these Floyd fanboys. Reason why he's asking for these
extra tests is because he is scared of the Pacman. What do you
thiink it is? You gotta be really dumb to think that Floyd regards
Pac an easy fight. It isn't. Fraud knew he'll have trouble fighting a
fighter like Pacquiao. His own father says so. Pacquiao is just too
much for Lil Floyd. Believe me, he will make Floyd look like an amateur.
Once those Pac combinations begin to land, all Lil Floyd would do is
cover his face ala Clottey. Which is why Floyd will never again talk
to the press about boxing. He knew that all his bluffs will all be going
to be called by Pac this time.

"Which is why Floyd will never again talk
to the press about boxing. He knew that all his bluffs will all be going
to be called by Pac this time." - Spot on bro

[Spoon23]

Mayweathers telling the truth that winning is more important to him then money, thats why he wont fight Pac. All the millions on offer still dont compensate for 41-1.

Got that right bro. Spot on haha!