if martinez defeats dzinziruk should he be no.1 p4p

[Russian Crushin]

A win over Dzin would be just about equal to Cottos win over Foreman

How it shoots you up to #1 is beyond me

[ThePrince]

If he beats Sergei, he should be #2. He actually should be there now, but since Floyd won't be knocked off the rankings because of the hope of a fantasy fight despite fighting only twice in 3 1/2 years, he'll probably stay at #3.

[Iceta Lives]

Yes he should. Pacquiao will have fought two guys in a row with 5 or more losses on their record and past their prime. Combined wins over Williams, Pavlik, Cintron, and Dzinziruk are against guys either undefeated or with only two losses on their record and two of the guys out of that list (Dzinziruk and Pavlik) were at some time or another ranked #1 in their division. Pacquiao has to step up his game and quit holding the P4P spot hostage at some point. He shouldn't be allowed to sit on his past accomplishments without fighting an impressive opponent.

[Iceta Lives]

A win over Dzin would be just about equal to Cottos win over Foreman

How it shoots you up to #1 is beyond me

This is dumb ass talk. Dzinziruk is way better than Foreman could ever dream of being.

[BG_Knocc_Out]

He's number #4 to me right now. I don't think a Dzin win is much of an accomplishment.

My personal list:

1. Pac
2. Hopkins
3. Wlad
4. Sergio

My list is mostly based off of consistency, performance, activity, and quality of opposition. This isn't a list based on skill.

[-DSG-]

Yes he should. Pacquiao will have fought two guys in a row with 5 or more losses on their record and past their prime. Combined wins over Williams, Pavlik, Cintron, and Dzinziruk are against guys either undefeated or with only two losses on their record and two of the guys out of that list (Dzinziruk and Pavlik) were at some time or another ranked #1 in their division. Pacquiao has to step up his game and quit holding the P4P spot hostage at some point. He shouldn't be allowed to sit on his past accomplishments without fighting an impressive opponent.

exactly people have pac and may on some kind of special pedestal

[Fox McCloud]

No, I don't think Dzin has proven himself as an elite-level fighter.

You shut the hell up Cleggy. Dzinziruk's win over Santos easily proves him as an elite fighter. Also, his win's over Lujan, Julio, etc. are not great, but good, legit wins.

Martinez won't get nearly as much credit for beating Dzinziruk... if he beats Dzinziruk.

[Russian Crushin]

This is dumb ass talk. Dzinziruk is way better than Foreman could ever dream of being.

And as proved this how?

[Fox McCloud]

A win over Dzin would be just about equal to Cottos win over Foreman

How it shoots you up to #1 is beyond me

Dzinziruk - Prime Santos and some other people you've heard of.
Foreman - Shot Santos and no one you've ever heard of.

Kthanks.

[-Hyperion-]

And as proved this how?

ah, so you're a kostya "vince phillips is my dad" tszyu fan.....