Comments Thread For: Roach: Mayweather Would Be Difficult, But Pacquiao Wins

[WESS]

that means that what you said are conflicting....youre saying pac came in overweight vs torrecampo and you based it on boxrec...well, boxrec also says that pac came in at 112 vs him....so, obviusly pac only came in overweight once not twice like you claim....and pac only fought at CW twice, now thats common knowldege....so get with the program!

We (you) have already pointed out that boxrec was not accurate, bad on my part. I copied what I knew should have been there so you could see what I was trying to get across to you. Which was, Pac has come in overweight too. Are you denying that?

[Jack Napier]

most difficult part is getting Floyd's scared ass in the ring :laugh:

[JayDee2700]

thats the last thing you can describe pac....he is one of the most awkward fighter there is...thats what gives lots of fighters trouble becuase its hard to prepare for his style , theres no exact definiton to it...

jmm and floyd are 2 diferent fighters.....jmm simply had success becuase of his abilty to counterpunch and folloowing it with with combinations..even then it was'nt enough..floyd is a potshot guy, tho he is a good counter pucher himself does'nt have the combos to stop pac's relentless onslaught...

This right here tells me that you havnt watch boxing that long cause YES! That is Floyd's choosen style to counter an pot shot but back n the Pretty Boy Floyd days he put together some crazy combinations dont think just because floyd dont really throw alot of combo's that he cant, ppl tend to forget that pretty boy was a great combination puncher, he just chooses not to, but believe if he catches Manny on a counter he will finish the job.

[puga]

No Manny is! look at his fights, he doesnt hav the same rythem with each fighter, what i mean by rythem is a set mode he get into where he just takes over by punching from angles an dipping out then restarting an do it again, where if sum1 such as JMM or Mayweather will time him and counter him, then he'll get frestrated a look sloppy like he did against JMM! Ive watch Manny for several years he still has the same flaws he's always had, he just has just fought styles that dont give him problems.

thats how pac looks each time....he looks outbalance at times yet he's neverbeen down in about 8 years now......jmm frustrated pac?...lol....thats why he put that ass 4 times in two fights...jmm was more frustrtaed than pac was becuase he could'nt help not to kiss the canvas each time.....floyd aint got to offense to do what jmm could....the only way floyd wins is if he runs and potshots and hope for a decision, thats the smartest way for him...

[WESS]

most difficult part is getting Floyd's scared ass in the ring :laugh:

The most difficult part is to keep him out of court/trouble. He's scared every fight remember? Until after the fact. Then everyones the expert!

[puga]

This right here tells me that you havnt watch boxing that long cause YES! That is Floyd's choosen style to counter an pot shot but back n the Pretty Boy Floyd days he put together some crazy combinations dont think just because floyd dont really throw alot of combo's that he cant, ppl tend to forget that pretty boy was a great combination puncher, he just chooses not to, but believe if he catches Manny on a counter he will finish the job.

i could almost guarantee ive been a longer boxing fan than you and seen more floyd fights than you....floyd has always been a defense fist fighter...he was never known to slug it out vs anyone....though he did gatti , corrales, ndou, burton,...he was never like a jmm or a pacquiao in the offense department....

[punchmehard]

Let me ask you this question. if beating floyd will be easy like most people are saying, especially freddie roach, why did pacquiao walk away from the first negotiations. everyone knows its because of the testing but if your a clean fighter why would blood testing be a problem. alot of people tend to brush that under the rug. floyd was ready for the fight the first time. he even agreed to pacquiao's demands for 8 ounce gloves and 50-50 split which floyd is not known for doing. all he wanted was to do random blood testing and pacquiao backed off. I guess you dont remember that either? of course you dont because no one wants to give floyd the credit for accepting pacquiao's challenge and wanting to bring more honesty and fairness to the sport by doing blood testing. im pretty if floyd fights him and beats him convincingly haters would still find a way to play it down. and okay he got rocked by corley, de la hoya, judah, and even mosley. but he adjusted and schooled these guys so i dont think he's afraid of pacquiao's power. floyd gave him the opportunity the first time, pac backed off, so now floyd is gonna make him wait and fight him when he's ready. and plus all the legal stuff he has goin on, that man aint thinking about pacquiao right now. the fight will happen because there is too much money and stake and when floyd beats pacquiao i cant wait to hear what kind of excuses the haters will come up with

Pac didnt walk away, he just didnt budge to mayweathers ridiculuos demands. Why may put a roadblock if he wanted the fight in the first place? Again back to my question was the test just a ploy to get into Pacs head? Why did mayweather said ok to 14 days cut off the first time then moved to 0 days when Pac said yes to 7?

[JayDee2700]

thats how pac looks each time....he looks outbalance at times yet he's neverbeen down in about 8 years now......jmm frustrated pac?...lol....thats why he put that ass 4 times in two fights...jmm was more frustrtaed than pac was becuase he could'nt help not to kiss the canvas each time.....floyd aint got to offense to do what jmm could....the only way floyd wins is if he runs and potshots and hope for a decision, thats the smartest way for him...

Regarless how many times JMM touched the canves Manny didnt even beat JMM the 1st fight LOL! tells you right there how bad Manny got beat down the first fight 2nd fight I felt JMM won he out boxed Manny. Like i said u havent watch boxing for too long cause floyd has a great offensive game u need to look at his pretty boy days cause if you think Floyd cant put combo's together you a MF fool!! He just chooses not to, its funny how ppl dismiss the fact the floyd was a crazy offensive fight when he was pretty boy, an just cause he chooses not to go the rount ppl say he's a pot shot defensive fighter, ask Mosley if Floyd has a offensive game cause he sure beat the **** out of him after the 2nd round.

[GRUSTLER]

thats how pac looks each time....he looks outbalance at times yet he's neverbeen down in about 8 years now......jmm frustrated pac?...lol....thats why he put that ass 4 times in two fights...jmm was more frustrtaed than pac was becuase he could'nt help not to kiss the canvas each time.....floyd aint got to offense to do what jmm could....the only way floyd wins is if he runs and potshots and hope for a decision, thats the smartest way for him...

That's what people said about the Mosley fight BUT Floyd
took it to Shane. Even ate his best shots and shut Shane
down. Pac didn't even want to fight Shane after Margarito
because he was too good and couldn't make the catchweight
Roach wanted. Pac is a fraud and Arum is a liar, while Roach
is just doing his job. Notice after the rematch with JMM,
Pac fought the same styles in every fight.

[Ko King 212]

i could almost guarantee ive been a longer boxing fan than you and seen more floyd fights than you....floyd has always been a defense fist fighter...he was never known to slug it out vs anyone....though he did gatti , corrales, ndou, burton,...he was never like a jmm or a pacquiao in the offense department....

You dont know wtf you are talking about. He wasnt always defensive minded. He would put combos together like crazy. Even then he was only defesive minded when he hurt his hand. And even then he was still putting punches together.