Bruce Lee was no joke in real live combat

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Mr Miyagi, Jackie Chan, Van Damme and Jet lei would tear him up.

was an extra in enter the dragon......lol.

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Bruce Lee is surrounded with lot of hype, won't be surprised if he was really joke. Being involved in real fights against real good opponents is a lot different. Boxing and MMA stars face the best opponents and eat a lot of punches, which eventually make them a lot stronger, experienced, cunning and etc. Well Bruce Lee developed his own style and techniques, but applying this techniques in real fight is much different. Best boxing coaches come from poor boxers.

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If memory serves Roberto Duran issued a challenge to face Lee in a boxing match..........

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I've read so many threads over the years about Bruce Lee being an actor and not a real martial artist. He was a lifelong actor, but to think he isn't capable in a real street fight is absurd. Every documentary about him that was ever made details to some degree his real life encounters. Take it for what it's worth but this is straight from Wikipedia, a pretty reliable fact based source:

I haven't had more than 15 posts, so I am unable to post the link. But just look up Bruce Lee on the Wikipedia website.

Fight history

Lee was involved in competitive fights, some of which were arranged while others were not. Dan Inosanto stated, "There's no doubt in my mind that if Bruce Lee had gone into pro boxing, he could easily have ranked in the top three in the lightweight division or junior-welterweight division".[38]
Lee defeated three-time champion British boxer Gary Elms by way of knockout in the third round in the 1958 Hong Kong Inter-School amateur Boxing Championships by using Wing Chun traps and high/low-level straight punches.[39]
The following year, Lee became a member of the "Tigers of Junction Street," and was involved in numerous gang-related street fights. "In one of his last encounters, while removing his jacket the fellow he was squaring off against sucker punched him and blackened his eye. Bruce flew into a rage and went after him, knocking him out, breaking his opponent's arm. The police were called as a result".[40] The incident took place on a Hong Kong rooftop at 10 pm on Wednesday, 29 April 1959.[41]
In 1962, Lee knocked out Uechi, a Japanese black belt Karateka, in 11 seconds in a 1962 Full-Contact match in Seattle. It was refereed by Jesse Glover. The incident took place in Seattle at a YMCA handball court. Taki Kamura says the battle lasted 10 seconds in contrary to Harts statement.[42] Ed Hart states "The karate man arrived in his gi (uniform), complete with black belt, while Bruce showed up in his street clothes and simply took off his shoes. The fight lasted exactly 11 seconds – I know because I was the time keeper – and Bruce had hit the guy something like 15 times and kicked him once. I thought he'd killed him".[43] The fight ended by Bruce knocking Uechi the length of the gymnasium.[44]
In Oakland, California in 1964 at Chinatown, Lee had a controversial private match with Wong Jack Man, a direct student of Ma Kin Fung known for his mastery of Xingyiquan, Northern Shaolin, and Tai chi chuan. According to Lee, the Chinese community issued an ultimatum to him to stop teaching non-Chinese; when he refused to comply he was challenged to a combat match with Wong, the arrangement being that if Lee lost he would have to shut down his school while if he won then Lee would be free to teach Caucasians or anyone else.[40] Wong denies this, stating that he requested to fight Lee after Lee issued an open challenge during one of Lee's demonstrations at a Chinatown theatre, and that Wong himself did not discriminate against Caucasians or other non-Chinese.[45] "That paper had all the names of the sifu from Chinatown, but they don't scare me". — Bruce Lee[46]
Individuals known to have witnessed the match included Cadwell, James Lee (Bruce Lee's associate, no relation) and William Chen, a teacher of Tai chi chuan. Wong and witness William Chen stated that the fight lasted an unusually long 20–25 minutes.[45] According to Bruce Lee, Linda Lee Cadwell, and James Yimm Lee, the fight lasted 3 minutes with a decisive victory for Bruce. "The fight ensued, it was a no holds barred fight, it took three minutes. Bruce got this guy down to the ground and said 'do you give up?' and the man said he gave up". — Linda Lee Cadwell[40]
Wong Jack Man published his own account of the battle in the Chinese Pacific Weekly, a Chinese-language newspaper in San Francisco, which contained another challenge to Lee for a public rematch.[45] Lee had no reciprocation to Wong's article nor were there any further public announcements by either, but Lee had continued to teach Caucasians.
Lee's eventual celebrity put him in the path of a number of men who sought to make a name for themselves by causing a confrontation with Lee. A challenger had invaded Lee's private home in Hong Kong by trespassing into the backyard to incite Lee in combat. Lee finished the challenger violently with a kick, infuriated over the home invasion. Describing the incident, Herb Jackson states,
One time one fellow got over that wall, got into his yard and challenged him and he says 'how good are you?' And Bruce was poppin mad. He [Bruce] says 'he gets the idea, this guy, to come and invade my home, my own private home, invade it and challenge me.' He said he got so mad that he gave the hardest kick he ever gave anyone in his life.[47]
Bob Wall, USPK karate champion and Lee's co-star in Enter the Dragon, recalled one encounter that transpired after a film extra kept taunting Lee. The extra yelled that Lee was "a movie star, not a martial artist," that he "wasn't much of a fighter". Lee answered his taunts by asking him to jump down from the wall he was sitting on. Wall described Lee's opponent as "a gang-****er type of guy from Hong Kong," a "damned good martial artist," and observed that he was fast, strong, and bigger than Bruce.[48]
This kid was good. He was strong and fast, and he was really trying to punch Bruce's brains in. But Bruce just methodically took him apart.[49] Bruce kept moving so well, this kid couldn't touch him...then all of a sudden, Bruce got him and rammed his ass with the wall and swept him up, proceeding to drop him and plant his knee into his opponent's chest, locked his arm out straight, and nailed him in the face repeatedly". — Bob Wall[50]

Did u seriously use WIKIPEDIA as you source? (you know that website is written by anyone right and can be modified by anyone who is registered). Wikipedia being reliable is like saying the new york times is a conservative newspaper....

Bruce Lee was a great teacher and martial artist, but don't get real life combat mixed up with teaching. He never competed and all of his "street fights" came from second, third or fourth hand accounts.

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Some of the crap I'm reading in this thread I really wouldn't expect to come from boxing fans.

[strykr619]

chuck norris wipes his ass with bruce lee

Chuck Norris ACTUALLY COMPETED while Bruce didn't.

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If you saw someone other than Bruce hitting the bag like that what would you say?

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Bruce Lee is that dude...

[strykr619]

Take a read from what Gene LeBell had to say about Bruce (legendary martial artist, legendary hollywood stuntman aka he is the guy that made Steven Segal **** in his pants from being put to sleep)

"I met Bruce Lee on the set of the Green Hornet when the stunt coordinator Benny Dobbins called me and told me he needed me to take some falls. He also mentioned there was a guy there named Bruce Lee who was unbelievably athletic and stealing all the scenes from the star because he was doing ALL the fighting. Benny said he couldn't believe this guy, he was kicking like a jumping bean! You have to understand; they had never seen anything like Bruce Lee's fighting style in showbiz yet.

"When I got to the set Benny pointed Bruce out and told me to go put him in a headlock or something Well, Im a good employee and I always listen to the boss, so I went over to grab Bruce and he starts making all those crazy noises he became famous for. As a joke, I picked him up and put him on my shoulder in a fireman's carry kind of thing, then I ran down the length of the set and back again. Bruce says "put me down or I'll kill you". So I run down the set again and he says, "put me down" and I say "I can't put you down or you'll kill me". After that I sat down and talked to my boss and the other crew members for a couple minutes with him up on my shoulder. He finally crawled off, we all had a good laugh, and we went and shot our scenes.

"Bruce called me for a few shows because he liked the way I took falls for him - being a judo man made me pretty good at breakfalls. We ended up becoming friends and would work out together and teach each other techniques. I liked working out with Bruce, but I kept getting sick from that stinky incense he burned in his gym. I told him I wouldn't go there because his dojo smelled worse than a Chinese laundry house. Of course, I was only kidding with him, and once Bruce learned that my teasing was all in good fun he started to joke around too. Bruce came to my dojo after that. He was a great guy, and I loved him.

"Bruce loved to learn grappling, he ate it up! He said that people would never go for it in movies or TV because the fights are over too fast and most of the good stuff was hidden from view. He said they wanted to see fancy kicking, acrobatics, and weapons -- he was a savvy showman who knew how to give 'em exactly what they wanted. I wish he could be around now to see how well grappling is doing these days. I remember one time he kicked me really hard. I remember thinking it was a good thing he only wore a size 6 shoe instead of a 14 like me, otherwise that kick would have sent me to China! He was strong for his size, lemme tell ya.

"He used to take me to these authentic Chinese restaurants that had really weird looking food that I just couldn't bring myself to eat it. I don't eat anything that doesn't have horns. He used to tease me about it - which was progress because he used to get offended at my ribbing when we first started hanging out (especially that Chinese laundry bit). He had two students that I remain good friends with to this day, probably because they don't make me eat that weird food. Danny Inosanto, who is every bit as good as Bruce was if not better, and Richard Bustillo. Richard has carried on Bruce's philosophy of cross training and peak physical condition in order to become the best fighter you can.

"I miss both Bruce and Brandon and wish they were still around today."

Gene LeBell (Jan 2000)

http://www.genelebell.com/stories.html#11

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HERE IS THE TRUTH

Any one who has read Lee's published work on his creation, Jeet Kune Do, will know that Bruce Lee formally expressed the ultimate hand to hand combat philosophy. One that has inspired many of the Greatest Boxers of both his and future generations.

This fact, coupled with his obvious athletic ability and physical conditioning, leads me to believe that within his weight class, he would dominate.

The winner of the first american full contact championship fight (video below) was taught by Bruce (won with a hand combo as well). Bruce was the the active teacher of Many (if not all) American MA Champions of the time.

Would he win in any fight against anybody from anytime?? Maybe not (Bruce himself had confessed to Jesse Glover, his first student, that he was afraid of someone who would work just as hard as him, but bigger and stronger), but within his weight-class, it would be difficult to imagine him losing.

It is interesting to note, that for such a boastful person at the time (One of his quotes was "...to tell you the truth, I can beat anyone in the World"), there has been no one to have claimed to have beaten him in any manner, boxing or otherwise.


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