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  • ModernTalking
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    #41
    Originally posted by serv
    He is calling out Pac... does that count, sir?
    Everybody is calling out Pac LOL....

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    • ModernTalking
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      #42
      Originally posted by WESS
      Are you serious? Clottey.... WTF is it with people and Clottey? Is it that Pac fought him so that makes him a great WW now? Tell me again who he's beaten other than Judah in the last what 5 years, 6, 7, 8 years? Anything? What has this guy done at WW besides lose every important fight?

      He's called a gate keeper.

      As for Cotto, Margarito and Pwill? They're not even WW's...

      At the end of the day Arum has an agenda. That's what it comes down too. Its not about "ability", "availability" but "Marketability". It's not about who deserves a shot or who has the skills to compete, let a lone what the fans want. Its what about what brings in the most money for Bob. It doesn't matter "who's" around or what going on. Arum has agenda and certain fighters are not on it.

      They make a fight and spend 4 months trying to justify the selection to the "fans". They say over and over how "dangerous" a fighter is. As if we needed to be told that if a fighter really was "dangerous" or not.... Arum is fooling a lot of you clowns.

      Berto is a top (green) guy AT WW and needs a big name to put him on the map just as Pac needed Hoya to put him on the map. Pac fighting Berto would have been a good choice IMO but I understand how Arum works and know its not about matching up the best vs the best or giving the fans what they want. Reason Arum didn't agree to put Pac in the ring with Floyd. Same reasons we didn't get Mosley in 2009, JMM III, Martinez and Berto..... Arum has an agenda.
      I don't give a **** about his win or lost.

      Berto has been at welterweight longer than Clottey has and he hasn't fought a big name fight. Clottey have fought Margarito and Cotto. Arum have a case when he said Berto have fought no big name at welterweight. Im sure Arum knows that the match that we than fans want to see is Berto vs Pac but he is right about Berto not fighting any big name yet.

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        #43
        Originally posted by ModernTalking
        I don't give a **** about his win or lost.

        Berto has been at welterweight longer than Clottey has and he hasn't fought a big name fight. Clottey have fought Margarito and Cotto. Arum have a case when he said Berto have fought no big name at welterweight. Im sure Arum knows that the match that we than fans want to see is Berto vs Pac but he is right about Berto not fighting any big name yet.
        Really? Berto has been at WW longer than Clottey has even though Clottey was at WW 10 years before Berto became pro?

        How does that work?

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        • IronDanHamza
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          #44
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          Really? Berto has been at WW longer than Clottey has even though Clottey was at WW 10 years before Berto became pro?

          How does that work?
          Ouch.........................

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            #45
            Originally posted by jrosales13
            Really? Berto has been at WW longer than Clottey has even though Clottey was at WW 10 years before Berto became pro?

            How does that work?
            Stop being dumb.

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              #46
              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Ouch.........................
              It just shows that the TS knew who Berto was before he knew who Clottey was.

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              • Clyde Barrow
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                #47
                Originally posted by ModernTalking
                Berto, Mosley, Clottey, Cotto, Margarito, Pacquiao, Mayweather, and Willams

                Berto hasn't even fought one of those guy LOL.

                I know that doesn't mean that Berto doesn't deserve the fight with Pacquiao. I would rather see Berto vs Pacquiao than Mosley vs Pacquiao but Arum does have a case because Berto doesn't have any good name user his resume.
                Berto getting a Pac fight has nothing to do with the merit of his record at this point. It's simply a case of last man standing. No one left at 147 for Pac after Mosley. Once Pac's done with Shane, Pac-Berto should happen.

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                  #48
                  mayweather will shi+ on all of em

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                  • Horvo
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                    #49
                    Berto hasn't beaten a single ranked WW, much less any of those guys. He hasn't beaten a single guy that is in the top 100 P4P.

                    Do people realize how bad Freddy Hernandez is? He was knocked down and should have lost to the Garcia guy that Margo beat in every round, even though everyone said Margo looked terrible in that fight.

                    Berto may turn out to be a great fighter, but he also might turn out to be one of the biggest busts ever. No way of knowing how he would do in a megafight against an elite opponent.

                    I think it's better for Berto if he gets some more fights under his belt before trying to take on Pac or PBF. Has anyone ever gone from a Freddy Hernandez level fight to a megafight with the #1 P4P? Has anyone ever had their first ranked opponent be the #1?

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                    • ModernTalking
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
                      Berto getting a Pac fight has nothing to do with the merit of his record at this point. It's simply a case of last man standing. No one left at 147 for Pac after Mosley. Once Pac's done with Shane, Pac-Berto should happen.
                      Like I said I would rather see Berto vs Pac over Mosley vs Pac but when you're analizing it between the two of them, Arum does have a case. Berto hasn't had any big name to go along with his name at welter.

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