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  • Rolaz
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    #21
    I'm still hoping the Boxing Sportswriters worldwide will be united as one Body, in formulating an Internationally accepted CRITERIA in selecting The Best P4P Boxer on Monthly basis and Yearly! Real one, not just Myth nor, with biased.

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    • Pacquiao'd
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      #22
      floyd should be 1. pac cherry picking of losers should put him lower on the list

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      • OpaiSoma
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        #23
        Bhop should be on #3 ahead of Sergio IMO, he was the one who ruined Pavlik, and Sergio has been overhyped by defeating an overhyped opponent- but he does deserve a rank 4-5, and montiel and jmm should be behind them

        1.Pac
        2.Floyd
        3.Bhop
        4.Sergio
        5.JMM
        6. Wlad

        and so ....

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        • v.cassiusali@ya
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          #24
          the list is ridiculous...

          what makes chicken floyd in the list?

          where's nonito donaire?

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          • crold1
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            #25
            Originally posted by Rolaz
            I'm still hoping the Boxing Sportswriters worldwide will be united as one Body, in formulating an Internationally accepted CRITERIA in selecting The Best P4P Boxer on Monthly basis and Yearly! Real one, not just Myth nor, with biased.
            Why would anyone want to suck the fun out of it? Everyone ain't the same size. There can never be a 'real one.' Don't take ****** things (like P4P lists) too seriously dude.



            Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya
            the list is ridiculous...

            what makes chicken floyd in the list?

            where's nonito donaire?
            I struggle with Donaire. He's three years removed from a fight he wasn't wildly favored in and has largely stunted since that Darchinyan win. Sidorenko was highly impressive and if he gets by Montiel he'll leap.
            Last edited by crold1; 12-26-2010, 08:02 AM.

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            • BoZz
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              #26
              skill wise floyd belongs on the #1 spot but that bastard doesn't fight much that's why I wouldn't even bother bringing him up,I got more respect for b-hop now then any other fighter out there,he doesn't cherry pick and he beats people half his age.

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              • BoZz
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                #27
                Originally posted by yesir
                floyd should be 1. pac cherry picking of losers should put him lower on the list
                If he fought then he probably would be but having the talent and skills but not fighting is not gonna help you much so that means he doesn't belong on the top,he fights makes lots of money then fu*** off again.He gotta be active.

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                • BoZz
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by v.cassiusali@ya
                  the list is ridiculous...

                  what makes chicken floyd in the list?

                  where's nonito donaire?
                  he's with your wife,so stop posting and take care of sh**

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                  • crold1
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BoZz
                    skill wise floyd belongs on the #1 spot but that bastard doesn't fight much that's why I wouldn't even bother bringing him up,I got more respect for b-hop now then any other fighter out there,he doesn't cherry pick and he beats people half his age.
                    Hops was coming off a layoff, Ornelas, and the just-knocked-out-in-1 RJJ. He never went near Dawson but jumped at the more technically flawed Pascal.

                    He can be as picky as anyone.

                    He's also 45 and totally bad ass so rock on B-Hop.

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                    • smith_oli
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Queen_Leia
                      Well said Smith...well said!!!!
                      Thanks. I don't post on here very often but pound for pound lists always get people talking, I guess that's the point.

                      For what it is worth I think Cliff's list is pretty damned good.

                      I'd probably push Hopkins down slightly, without wishing to take anything away from what he achieved against Pascal. I think that clash of styles is always going to be favourable for Bernard.

                      I would probably sneak Donaire into the list somewhere; in terms of potential ability he is already there, and has been there for a long time but he needs fights like Montiel to prove he belongs. Donaire's greatest attribute in that fight will be his metabolism, he'll be too big for Montiel when they get into the ring and I predict Donaire will take him to pieces. Looking forward to February!

                      Whether Montiel deserves to be higher at the moment is up for debate and depends on how you define P4P, is it a representation of what a boxer has accomplished? If it is, then sure, Montiel should be higher. If your pound for pound list is based on who would beat who if everyone were the same size - hence 'pound for pound' - then I'd rate Donaire higher.

                      Pound for pound lists tend to focus on what HAS been accomplished rather than what could potentially be accomplished and that is fine, it still allows for plenty of subjectivity and opinion, which is the great thing about these lists.

                      One final thing - Wladimir Klitschko is a victim of circumstance in so much as he has done the best he possibly could with what he has to choose from. If the Heavyweight division was as stacked out as Light Welterweight or Bantamweight and Wlad had put in similar performances he would probably be going down as an all time great Heavyweight. As it is, his defining fight will probably be Haye. It's not like he can look to the Cruiserweights either, even if that division was red-hot, his sheer physicality would render most fights meaningless. It is a shame that we won't know how great he could be.
                      Last edited by smith_oli; 12-26-2010, 08:22 AM.

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