cliff lol'd you confuse me. you have an article that says calzaghe is an all time great yet you don't even have omar andres narvaez anywhere close to your p4p top 10? undefeated, 16 title defenses at 112 and he just moved up and won another belt at 115. sounds very similar. if he beats a washed up jorge arce is he an all time great?
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Yes. Not a bad list but this sport is objective at one moment and then subjective the next. Drop Floyd anywhere below 5 and I could sign off on it.
Sorry, but I am within that margin that believes Mayweather is an HBO enigma, bought, sold and promoted for. He has never been in a firefight and his oppostion has been elegantly crafted. His De La Hoya split verdict victory was his best effort.
The question I ask most rergarding him is where does one place him in fistic history should he never throw hands again?
How quickly the tables turns. He will need Manny for any form of redemption and Pacman could retire tomorrow and still be viewed as the best of the last 15 years.
The odds are good that Floyd's head will require a very lengthy period of recovery once he can admit his personal demons.
He does not enjoy the game any longer which makes him unapproachable and very beatable. Should he do time, I do not think we will see him in action again for quite awhile.
He and Iron Mike need to have a long talk.Comment
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Yes. Not a bad list but this sport is objective at one moment and then subjective the next. Drop Floyd anywhere below 5 and I could sign off on it.
Sorry, but I am within that margin that believes Mayweather is an HBO enigma, bought, sold and promoted for. He has never been in a firefight and his oppostion has been elegantly crafted. His De La Hoya split verdict victory was his best effort.
The question I ask most rergarding him is where does one place him in fistic history should he never throw hands again?
How quickly the tables turns. He will need Manny for any form of redemption and Pacman could retire tomorrow and still be viewed as the best of the last 15 years.
The odds are good that Floyd's head will require a very lengthy period of recovery once he can admit his personal demons.
He does not enjoy the game any longer which makes him unapproachable and very beatable. Should he do time, I do not think we will see him in action again for quite awhile.
He and Iron Mike need to have a long talk.
Floyd's rating isn't something that is negotiable, unless you have some kind of agenda or you don't understand the game. It is right there in black and White, on the compubox analysis, the judges score cards and ultimately, his unblemished ledger.
It is what it is and for Floyd to be taken out of his comfort zone enough for his innate ability to be questioned, he would need to fight a hell of a lot higher that 147lbs. But then why would he? He is a natural Welterweight and there are plenty of paydays to be had, as long as he can get his act together.Comment
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There is objectivity and there is subjectivity; and then there is a tangible recognition that Mayweather's skill set far exceeds those in the list below him. That isn't subjective, it is evident everytime he steps in the ring. Mayweather hasn't been in a fire fight because his style negates the need to get ****** into the kind of fights that shorten careers. It's a totally moot point. Like saying Calderon didn't deserve his place in P4P lists last year because he didn't knock enough people out.
Floyd's rating isn't something that is negotiable, unless you have some kind of agenda or you don't understand the game. It is right there in black and White, on the compubox analysis, the judges score cards and ultimately, his unblemished ledger.
It is what it is and for Floyd to be taken out of his comfort zone enough for his innate ability to be questioned, he would need to fight a hell of a lot higher that 147lbs. But then why would he? He is a natural Welterweight and there are plenty of paydays to be had, as long as he can get his act together.Comment
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LOL at Popkins, Bradley and Moreno...
What wins put Bradley on this list??
Holt?Peterson?Abregu?I'm laughing.
Froch beat Pascal,Abraham,Taylor,Dirrell for exemple.
BUT Hopkins and his ugly draw with Pascal are P4P???HAHAHAHA
How getting dropped by Pascal is P4P?
Froch,Wlad,Ward>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bradley and grandpa Pushkins.Comment
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I think Amir, with his reach, decent power, speed and skills beat Bradley bad.
I don't see Bradley outboxing the taller, faster Kahn.
And his ko ratio under 50% helps him little for a ko win.Comment
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