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  • Khalid X
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    #21
    Originally posted by rubensonnny
    Terrible comparison they didnt charge 60 dollars for it and they did it every week or 2 to stay sharp and they all fought quality contenders and champions in between many of these stay busy fights, not a pathetic tune up every 6 months. In the case of Ali and Louis, they were both criticized for any sub standard opponents on the few occasions they fought them and still fought much better competition than Manny has.
    My point is still the same. Did they fight elite fighters each and every time?

    Okay since times were different, let's not use them. Please name me a fighter who has faced elite competition each and everytime. If you can, why are you holding Manny to that standard?

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    • maguirre
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      #22
      I would have loved to see Marquez III even before Clottey. Roach and Ariza agree. A lot of fans here are against it saying Pacman would massacre Marquez at this point. (I don't disagree, which is why I want to see it.) They were saying the same thing with Berto, which is Arum's other option. Both of these two are easier fights for Pacman compared to Mosley. Berto hasn't called Mosley out since the earthquake; I just can't imagine Marquez calling out Mosley.

      Point is, my reason for Marquez is different compared to Pac haters. But to say Mosley is the easier fight for Pac than either Berto and Marquez is simply idiotic.
      Last edited by maguirre; 12-23-2010, 05:40 PM.

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      • RubenSonny
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        #23
        Originally posted by -Top Rank-
        My point is still the same. Did they fight elite fighters each and every time?

        Okay since times were different, let's not use them. Please name me a fighter who has faced elite competition each and everytime. If you can, why are you holding Manny to that standard?
        Hes doing it for money I understand, doesn't mean the fight should be supported and defended. I was mad when Floyd signed to fight Marquez, its nothing particular against Manny, but his opponents of recent have been pathetic.

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        • letsgobrady
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          #24
          Originally posted by Cgarcia
          I would have loved to see Marquez III even before Clottey. Roach and Ariza agree. A lot of fans are against it saying Pacman would massacre Marquez at this point. (I don't disagree, which is why I want to see it.) They were saying the same thing with Berto, which is Arum's other option. Both of these two are easier fights for Pacman compared to Mosley. Berto hasn't called Mosley out since the earthquake; I just can't imagine Marquez calling out Mosley.

          Point is, my reason for Marquez is different compared to Pac haters. But to say Mosley is the easier fight for Pac than either Berto and Marquez is simply idiotic.
          it's not the easiest but it's worthless this fight only means something to shane arum and the people that love manny but besides those people most don't care and even some of the casual fans not the manny fans the casuall fans that watch manny,cotto,floyd or marquez but may not know that much about fighters like bradley are also lookin at this fight like if it's bull**** one of my friends who always ask me whens the next fight was askin me anout manny and i said he is supposed to be fighting shane and he was somewhat disgusted and if you watched espn yesterday you would have also sen the mainstream who alwys seem to praise manny also ****tin on the fight.

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          • RSBonos
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            #25
            With all this mock outrage you'd think that Pac is fighting Mathew Hatton instead of a top 5 WW who was #3 P4P less then a year ago.

            ...and you would also think that Berto and Marquez were fights that the fans were demanding in 2010...pshhh.

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            • BoxingTech718
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              #26
              Originally posted by ThePrince
              Exactly. HBO and Top Rank are 1000X more concerned with what the casual/general sports fan thinks about the fight than what a relative handful of non-PPV purchasers do. Manny is at that Tyson level where it doesn't matter who he fights, it's always a must-see event.
              I have purchased every Major PPV in the last 8years when not deployed overseas. So if they are ok with spitting on my opinion then I won't feel bad about not paying for anymore of their ppv's. I can always use the extra money for beer or gas for my SUV.

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              • Mayabang
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                #27
                Originally posted by letsgobrady
                it's not the easiest but it's worthless this fight only means something to shane arum and the people that love manny but besides those people most don't care and even some of the casual fans not the manny fans the casuall fans that watch manny,cotto,floyd or marquez but may not know that much about fighters like bradley are also lookin at this fight like if it's bull**** one of my friends who always ask me whens the next fight was askin me anout manny and i said he is supposed to be fighting shane and he was somewhat disgusted and if you watched espn yesterday you would have also sen the mainstream who alwys seem to praise manny also ****tin on the fight.
                so you're admitting that Shane is not the easiest? Then I guess kudos to Pac for not taking the 'easy' way out eh? But I bet if Pac chose to fight either Berto or Marquez, then you would complain that Pac cherrypicked the 'easiest' fight? lol. See, a hater is gonna hate, so it will obviously be a lose lose situation for Pac.

                Oh, and fyi, the only 'worthy' fight out there for Pac is Floyd, and same with Floyd for Pac, everyone else is worthless.

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                • Kimo
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Di Bushbaby
                  Bernard Hopkins at almost 46 years old just fought a guy 18 years younger & for most of the fight dominated!!That's a fighter U support!!
                  Dude nobody gave a **** about Hopkins before he performed wonderfully. Nothing but *****ing about his clinching and his old ass that needed retirement. Everyone here is guilty of that, except a handful of Bhop fans.

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                  • Bushbaby
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Top Rank-
                    I've followed the sport for over 15 years.

                    I understand that no fighter goes out and faces elite fighter each and every time.

                    Is this a great fight....not really.

                    At the end if the day every fighter takes a money fight/lesser opponent from time to time.

                    Even guys you seem to be sucking off recently such as Martinez (Who was trying to fight Cotto and Andy Lee) and B-Hop (who fought Oreneles and a guy who is way more shot than Shane in Roy Jones Jr.) are doing to same thing.

                    BTW I love your hypocrisy....
                    What hypocrisy do U find from me??The guy u suck off was favored in every fight from 135 on up except for DLH!!Which means he was supposed to win.U should leave Hopkins & Martinez out of anything U use to try & make a point because they have taken the hard road to in B-Hops case greatness & in Martinez's case arguably pfp 1-3!!All Pacman did was fight top rank fighters with 2 at catchweights & now an old a$$ Mosleybut u continue to ride his nutts,the nerve..................

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                    • Bushbaby
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Kimo
                      Dude nobody gave a **** about Hopkins before he performed wonderfully. Nothing but *****ing about his clinching and his old ass that needed retirement. Everyone here is guilty of that, except a handful of Bhop fans.
                      My point exactly,he needs to retire??He just performed masterfully,U want to take about great fighters,I suggest U pay close attention to him!!Floyd & Pacman can learn a thing or 2 about greatness from the man!!

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