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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #31
    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
    Yea they are, a resume is what whatever someone needs to explain their point and they almost never include the negatives.


    Like for example you take some old school guy all you know is the positives and that he fought all these guys who are highly thought of, how can you compare that against a current guy who you have watched and know all the positives and negatives about, it is a shitty way to compare

    Sorry that is a poor way of looking at it. You don't have to agree because I will never agree with what you are saying I have had this argument before, so I know this ain't going no where fast.
    again you're confusing a boxer's resume with a resume you turn in applying for a job.

    of course if you're applying for a job , you leave out the negatives because you want to get hired.

    but a boxer's resume is EVERYTHING. resume as i said before is a short summary of a boxer's career. negative and positive.


    i'm not disagreeing with you on your views on how you have to know the full story and not just win/loss records.

    i agree with that.

    i'm disagreeing with you because you think the term "resume" when it applies to a boxer means just a list of names , dates , wins , etc.

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    • The Gambler1981
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      #32
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      agreed.

      but what you fail to understand is that the full story is part of a boxer's resume.

      again you are confusing a resume you turn in applying for a job with a boxer's resume.

      you discussing a boxer's story is you telling a boxer's resume.


      you're confusing a boxer's resume with a list from boxrec.

      a boxer's resume is not only a list of just wins and losses and dates and names.
      I disagree because that is not how it is used in arguments.

      People never fill in the facts they state names numbers and dates saying very little about what takes place before, during or after.

      A resume by definition is a short summery not the whole story. I like the whole story I also don't think you can get the full story without seeing/living through the fights first hand.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        I disagree because that is not how it is used in arguments.

        People never fill in the facts they state names numbers and dates saying very little about what takes place before, during or after.

        A resume by definition is a short summery not the whole story. I like the whole story I also don't think you can get the full story without seeing/living through the fights first hand.
        everything is a short summary.

        you can write a 300 page book of a boxer's career and it's still a short summary of his story.


        like i said you're confusing a boxer's resume with boxrec which is just a list of dates and names.

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        • The Gambler1981
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          #34
          Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
          again you're confusing a boxer's resume with a resume you turn in applying for a job.

          of course if you're applying for a job , you leave out the negatives because you want to get hired.

          but a boxer's resume is EVERYTHING. resume as i said before is a short summary of a boxer's career. negative and positive.


          i'm not disagreeing with you on your views on how you have to know the full story and not just win/loss records.

          i agree with that.

          i'm disagreeing with you because you think the term "resume" when it applies to a boxer means just a list of names , dates , wins , etc.
          To me that is how resume is used in boxing, and resumes by definition are short and to the point just including facts (names, numbers, dates w/e), if someone can fill in the details they can use it because they know what all those things mean.

          I would say this all goes into the problem of comparing across era because there is so much to disagree on.

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          • The Gambler1981
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            #35
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
            everything is a short summary.

            you can write a 300 page book of a boxer's career and it's still a short summary of his story.


            like i said you're confusing a boxer's resume with boxrec which is just a list of dates and names.
            Resume's should never be more than 1 page~

            To me there are the fact's who won, on what date, where. That is the resume

            Then there is the story of what happened, that explains the resume.

            two different things to me.

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            • Left Hook Tua
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              #36
              Originally posted by The Gambler1981
              To me that is how resume is used in boxing, and resumes by definition are short and to the point just including facts (names, numbers, dates w/e), if someone can fill in the details they can use it because they know what all those things mean.

              I would say this all goes into the problem of comparing across era because there is so much to disagree on.
              are there people who just list dates and fights when talking about resume? of course.

              that doesn't mean that's what all a resume is.

              in the context of a boxer's career , a fighter's resume is everything about his career.

              when the previous posters used the word "resume" , they are not just talking about win-loss records. they're referring to a fighters entire career , story , legacy , etc.

              oddly enough , they were referring to the same things YOU were.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                Resume's should never be more than 1 page~
                To me there are the fact's who won, on what date, where. That is the resume

                Then there is the story of what happened, that explains the resume.

                two different things to me.
                again , you are confusing a "work resume" you turn in applying for a job to a "boxer's resume"

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                • The Gambler1981
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                  again , you are confusing a "work resume" you turn in applying for a job to a "boxer's resume"
                  That is the definition of resume.


                  All I am saying is you better know the facts and the story, whatever you want to call it.

                  I find most people don't treat resume as you are saying, but you can define it however you wish.

                  Understand that is also part of the problem though.

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                    That is the definition of resume.


                    All I am saying is you better know the facts and the story, whatever you want to call it.

                    I find most people don't treat resume as you are saying, but you can define it however you wish.

                    Understand that is also part of the problem though.
                    i'm not defining it as i wish.

                    i'm telling you what "resume" means when referring to a "fighter's resume".


                    i know it's the same word but a "boxer's resume" is not exactly the same as the resume you turn it applying to a job.

                    it's similar but not exactly the same.


                    like i said you're confusing a boxer's resume with just a list of dates and names.

                    that's not all it is.

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                    • The Gambler1981
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                      i'm not defining it as i wish.

                      i'm telling you what "resume" means when referring to a "fighter's resume".


                      i know it's the same word but a "boxer's resume" is not exactly the same as the resume you turn it applying to a job.

                      it's similar but not exactly the same.


                      like i said you're confusing a boxer's resume with just a list of dates and names.

                      that's not all it is.
                      That is all it is to me, so right there we are never going to agree.

                      Thus why i think resume is not the be all and end all, and will never agree. Disagreements like this only make me feel stronger in my beliefs.

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