Prime Ray Robinson vs Current Pac, who wins?

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  • jrosales13
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    #31
    Originally posted by treason1
    green k sent !!!! excellent post !!!!
    You going to green K a post where the man says Robinson 10% off his peak?

    That is why Pac fans get so much of a bad reputation on here. Because, a few talk out of their ass without really doing any research and then people want to generalize all us Pac fans together.

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    • treason1
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      #32
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      You going to green K a post where the man says Robinson 10% off his peak?

      That is why Pac fans get so much of a bad reputation on here. Because, a few talk out of their ass without really doing any research and then people want to generalize all us Pac fans together.
      yeah i will !! i see no reason not too !!! you made a good point, but i still think manny will beat him !!!! im one of the most unbiased pac fans on here as i routinly send out green ks to anyone i think that makes a good point even if that point sometimes makes pac seem bad !!!!! im not only a manny fan but a boxing fan

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        #33
        Originally posted by treason1
        yeah i will !! i see no reason not too !!! you made a good point, but i still think manny will beat him !!!! im one of the most unbiased pac fans on here as i routinly send out green ks to anyone i think that makes a good point even if that point sometimes makes pac seem bad !!!!! im not only a manny fan but a boxing fan
        But, when he says that Robinson who was already in his mid to late 30's, with around 150 and pro fights,. He retired years earlier for 3 years was 10% off his peak his point is not valid any longer. JMO anyways.

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        • Sugar Sting Ray
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          #34
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          You going to green K a post where the man says Robinson 10% off his peak?

          That is why Pac fans get so much of a bad reputation on here. Because, a few talk out of their ass without really doing any research and then people want to generalize all us Pac fans together.
          This is Sugar Ray Robinson at his peak at welterweight. Insert the Pacquiao that beat Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, and Margarito into the movie in replacement for the journeyman that Sugar Ray was fighting.

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          • KILLA RIGHT
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            #35
            Hahaha at people saying manny had to much speed for srr..srr was just as fast as manny at middleweight

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              #36
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              And, I'm not even sure there has been a fighter that had the combination of speed and power that SRR had.
              Jones Jr @middle, super middle, and Light heavy.


              Back on topic though, Robinson's era was tougher. They fought many more times, and had to endure more rounds. SRR started off 127-1 if my memory serves me right. That is ridiculous. It's hard to compare them since the gap is so far in between. You have to give it to SRR, the man was a beast. Imagine him with an advanced diet, training, supplements and Ariza shakes.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sugar Sting Ray
                This is Sugar Ray Robinson at his peak at welterweight. Insert the Pacquiao that beat Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, and Margarito into the movie in replacement for the journeyman that Sugar Ray was fighting.

                I think that SRR was already at MW during that fight but I could be mistaken. Also SRR had fought a week and a half earlier against Olson. Yes a week and a half earler.

                But, this proves nothing either. Replace Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito with SRR and see how Pac looks.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by SmallTown
                  They fought many more times, and had to endure more rounds. SRR started off 127-1 if my memory serves me right.
                  If Pacquiao had these people as opponents and fought as often as Robinson, PacMan would be 150-0. A sampling of Sugar Robinson's opponents during his 127-1 run.

                  Izzy Jannazzo 58-35-15
                  Vic Dellicurti 30-19-6
                  Vern Lester 25-25-12
                  Charley Dodson 38-29-4
                  Benny Evans 33-36-5
                  Al Mobley 50-26-5
                  Cecil Hudson 59-30-4
                  Freddie Flores 21-38-10
                  Earl Turner 46-17-8
                  Bobby Lee 22-8-4
                  Ossie Harris 41-45-6
                  Sammy Secreet 30-21-2
                  Flashy Sebastian 22-15-2
                  Freddie Wilson 11-24-0
                  Eddie Finazzo 38-30-5

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                  • NChristo
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Sugar Sting Ray
                    This is Sugar Ray Robinson at his peak at welterweight. Insert the Pacquiao that beat Clottey, Cotto, Hatton, and Margarito into the movie in replacement for the journeyman that Sugar Ray was fighting.

                    Robinson already moved up to middleweight before this fight.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by jrosales13
                      I think that SRR was already at MW during that fight but I could be mistaken. Also SRR had fought a week and a half earlier against Olson. Yes a week and a half earler.

                      But, this proves nothing either. Replace Cotto, Clottey, and Margarito with SRR and see how Pac looks.
                      DAMN. a week and a half later??? how many times did SRR fight in a year?

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