floyd last 5 opponents = coming off KO victorys...
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You should be just of critical of Manny as you are of Floyd.
Please, what you said was purely opinion. What I outlined was FACT.
Is it not a FACT Floyd wouldn't fight Margs or Cotto and didn't fight Clottey? Is it not a FACT Hatton said after his win over Collazo at 147 that that weight was to much for him? Is it not a FACT that Oscar was a part time fighter (same against Manny) when he fought Floyd yet was much more impressive than against Pac? is it also not true that you're on board with the theory that Margarito was/is nothing without plaster wraps?
I have no doubt you will duck the FACTS again.
They are like the same guy at this point and have been for at least 3 years.
Their careers are remarkably similar.Comment
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What up G?
I've been critical of Pac in the past and how he has begun to pick and choose opponents rather than clear out a division. But in a h2h comparison of the two Manny has had 5 fights in 2 years compared to Floyds 7 fights in 5 years since leaving 135. Pac has also faced 2 fighters the public was calling for Floyd to fight and at the time were much more dangerous than anybody he has fought at 147. These are facts my friend.Comment
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Floyd is further down the road than Manny, but it is still the same road.What up G?
I've been critical of Pac in the past and how he has begun to pick and choose opponents rather than clear out a division. But in a h2h comparison of the two Manny has had 5 fights in 2 years compared to Floyds 7 fights in 5 years since leaving 135. Pac has also faced 2 fighters the public was calling for Floyd to fight and at the time were much more dangerous than anybody he has fought at 147. These are facts my friend.
Still most of Floyd fights people were fine with them in the build up, nobody has really wanted to see any of these last three fights that Manny has been involved in. Come on now, one alright two do better next time three come on now call a spade a spade.
It is the exact same argument as always but w/e I guess it is good to know we are still in the same places.Comment
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Lol, you know a tiger can't change its stripes!By the live turn out and PPV numbers I'd have to disagree with you. If some peoople do feel this way though, and I know there are plenty, its because they want the Pac-May fight.Floyd is further down the road than Manny, but it is still the same road.
Still most of Floyd fights people were fine with them in the build up, nobody has really wanted to see any of these last three fights that Manny has been involved in. Come on now, one alright two do better next time three come on now call a spade a spade.
It is the exact same argument as always but w/e I guess it is good to know we are still in the same places.Comment
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I didn't mean it in that way, but I would say those numbers could have been much more against an opponent people actually cared to see him fight against.
I am only sticking to what I have been saying about Manny for a long time, I actually like this current fight more than his last two so I' m not up in arms but I can understand why people are upset.Comment
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here are some facts for you son....
Please, what you said was purely opinion. What I outlined was FACT.
Is it not a FACT Floyd wouldn't fight Margs or Cotto and didn't fight Clottey? Is it not a FACT Hatton said after his win over Collazo at 147 that that weight was to much for him? Is it not a FACT that Oscar was a part time fighter (same against Manny) when he fought Floyd yet was much more impressive than against Pac? is it also not true that you're on board with the theory that Margarito was/is nothing without plaster wraps?
I have no doubt you will duck the FACTS again.
DLH was making a weight has hadn't made in like a decade and ended up weighing less than Manny. A healthy DLH was a 4 -1 favorite. Game Over, no matter which you slice and dice it, it became a handicapped match. Great name for a resume, but in actuality, not even close to being as impressive if it were a healthy DLH. Losing weight is a lot more damaging to the body than gaining it. FACT.
Hatton nearly got laid out against Juan Lazcano in the his first bout after getting KO'd by Mayweather. JUAN fucking LIZACANO, the chin wasn't the same. FACT. He then faced the feather-fisted Pauly Malinaggi who he beat (something ot be proud of?), but had Malinaggi any sort of power, Hatton would have has some serious trouble on his hands.
Cotto after being killed by Margarito (with plaster?), took on the no-name Jennings, who had he not beat, would have defined him as a finished fighter. FACT. Against Clottey, Cotto took a lot of punishment, his backpedaling was reminiscent of the Margarito fight. He was clearly not he same fighter he once was, even the HBO commentators picked up on it. Teddy Atlas: "Cotto is ripe for the pickings" FACT.
Joshua Clottey, although ranked as top 5 WW isn't even close to being an elite level fighter and had trouble with Cotto who was already looking like a shot fighter. 5 -1 favorite Pacquiao FACT.
Margarito, for real? Some places had it as 8 - 1 favorite Pacquiao. lol
Now Mosley who was embarrassed by Floyd and look terrible against Mora? GTFO.
You should find a better boxer to follow and a new football team while you're at it.Last edited by p4p-champ; 12-22-2010, 04:43 PM.Comment
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Again you answered none of my questions. Whats next, are you going on vacation and not even thinking about this for awhile?here are some facts for you son....
DLH was making a weight has hadn't made in like a decade and ended up weighing less than Manny. A healthy DLH was a 4 -1 favorite. Game Over, no matter which you slice and dice it, it became a handicapped match. Great name for a resume, but in actuality, not even close to being as impressive if it were a healthy DLH. Losing weight is a lot more damaging to the body than gaining it. FACT.
Hatton nearly got laid out against Juan Lazcano in the his first bout after getting KO'd by Mayweather. JUAN fucking LIZACANO, the chin wasn't the same. FACT. He then faced the feather-fisted Pauly Malinaggi who he beat (something ot be proud of?), but had Malinaggi any sort of power, Hatton would have has some serious trouble on his hands.
Cotto after being killed by Margarito (with plaster?), took on the no-name Jennings, who had he not beat, would have defined him as a finished fighter. FACT. Against Clottey, Cotto took a lot of punishment, his backpedaling was reminiscent of the Margarito fight. He was clearly not he same fighter he once was, even the HBO commentators picked up on it. Cotto was ripe for the pickings. FACT.
Joshua Clottey, although ranked as top 5 WW isn't even close to being an elite level fighter and had trouble with Cotto who was once a great fighter. 5 -1 favorite Pacquiao FACT.
Margarito, for real? Some places had it as 8 - 1 favorite Pacquiao. lol
Now Mosley who was embarrassed by Floyd and look terrible against Mora? GTFO.
You should find a better boxer to follow and a new football team while you're at it.
Quit ducking the questions already.
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I didn't mean it in that way, but I would say those numbers could have been much more against an opponent people actually cared to see him fight against.
I am only sticking to what I have been saying about Manny for a long time, I actually like this current fight more than his last two so I' m not up in arms but I can understand why people are upset.
We're good. We got off to a bad start but I've come to respect your opinions even if I can't agree with all of them.
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