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  • jrosales13
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    #81
    Originally posted by Cash Cow
    #5 or #6? who are the 5 guys that were ahead of him?
    Well actually what rankings are you going by?

    The Ring had Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk ahead of him.

    He was not the best JMW at the time. And, very overrated at the time. People gave him props cuz he beat Mayorga but who had Mayorga beat in that weight-class? And, Mayorga was also coming off a ass whoopen from a comebacking Tito. And, I think Tito cracked his chin TBH, I think he ruined him.

    Unless you're talking about another ratings list

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      #82
      Originally posted by Clyde Barrow
      Wasn't impressed by the Baldomir win, and definitely not the Marquez win. But Mosley, Hatton, and DLH are legitimate triumphs for PBF. He doesn't get the credit he should for those wins.
      You werent impressed by the Baldomir win? Um he was Ranked the #1 WW...he has done soemthing that not even Cotto, Clottey or Margarito has done.....and that is BEAT A CHAMPION for his belts....for how GREAT people claim that Cotto, Clottey or Margarito is...none of these guys have EVER beat a champion...lol... they have all got their titles off vacant title bouts...

      Even the Mayweather hater Dan Rafael thought Baldomir would be a tough fight for Mayweather....Brian Kenny was claiming Mayweather was DUCKING Baldomir when chose to fight Zab first.....

      You werent impressed with the JMM win? JMM was ranked #2 P4P fighter in the world, a year prior to fighting Mayweather, Manny went life & death with him. Mayweather made Marquez look like he never boxed a day in his life....OHH YEAH thats right Marquez was a blown up lightweight right? Well Marquez only had to gain 7lbs to get to 142 lbs to fight Mayweather......oh well Mayweather only won cause of SIZE right? Well why didnt Margarito beat Pac? hes taller, longer reach, and weighs more....why didnt he do the same thing to Manny that the Bigger Mayweather did to the smaller Marquez? .......MAYBE BECAUSE OF SKILL?

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        #83
        Originally posted by jrosales13
        Well actually what rankings are you going by?

        The Ring had Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk ahead of him.

        He was not the best JMW at the time. And, very overrated at the time. People gave him props cuz he beat Mayorga but who had Mayorga beat in that weight-class? And, Mayorga was also coming off a ass whoopen from a comebacking Tito. And, I think Tito cracked his chin TBH, I think he ruined him.

        Unless you're talking about another ratings list


        WE ALL know that Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk dont have the skill that Oscar had...would you have picked Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk over DLH at the time he beat Mayorga and fought Mayweather?

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          #84
          Originally posted by carlos slim
          mosley KO margarito
          marquez KO diaz
          hatton KO castillo
          dlh KO mayorga
          baldomir KO gatti

          very impressive by floyd...you could criticize the marquez fight but you cant do it with the others....esp baldomir he had a crazy year where he upset judah then KO gatti which no1 thought would happen go back in time im right as usual and floyd brought him back to earth....floyds resume is very impressive....
          Mosley was inactive for a year and 1/3 and was just as shot then as he is now. A lot of *****s tried to pass this off as Floyd's biggest career achievement... Compare what a 'shot' Cotto did to an undefeated champion to what Mosley did with a reality tv fighter, then tell me who is more faded?

          Marquez is a lightweight, career featherweight. 'Nuff said.

          Hatton was a light-welter and I don't see how KOing Pac's washed up sparring partner is any more impressive than knocking out the slick Malignaggi (who'd never been KO'd before, even against Cotto).

          DLH hadn't fought for a year in between Gatti and Mayweather and was coming off a KO loss to Hopkins (by ***** logic). He was a part-time fighter, full-time promoter at that point and STILL got a split decision. Pac showed how you're supposed to handle washed up part-timers (even though Manny was the 2-1 betting underdog).

          Baldomir... come on

          So his 'impressive' wins came against a club fighter in Baldomir, an inactive DLH coming off a KO loss to Hopkins, a blown up 140-lber in Hatton, a blown up 135-lber in Marquez, and an old inactive shot Mosley.

          All by boring decision with the exception of a turnbuckle-assisted TKO with a blown up light-welter.

          Really impressive stuff

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            #85
            Originally posted by Chups
            For the fight of happen of course. The opponents were GIANTS for the lightweight Pac. At least Pac came at the agreed weight unlike some cheatscale wifebeater.


            Help me out here Chupa Chup because i'm confused.

            - Against Cotto he is a natural LW who needs to eat 7,000 calories a day (the same as Mr Olympia Jay Cutler) so a 145 CW is ok.

            - Against Margarito a 150 CW is ok, because again Manny is a natural LW and needs to eat all day just to get to 144.8. A 150 CW is no problem for Margarito because he's been a career WW since he was 16, so he won't be drained.....wonder why he came back at 154 to start with . Pac wins, and all of a sudden he has beat a Super MW, not a career WW.

            - Against JMM, Manny surely can't go down from 144.8 to 140 because according to Roach and Ariza that would make him grumpy because he would have to starve himself....and Roach wants him happy.

            So against Cotto, ODLH, Clottey and Margarito he is a natural LW who needs to be force fed 7,000 calories just to make 144-145.......but to fight at 140 he suddenly needs to starve himself??

            Which is it.........is he a natural LW or a WW??

            Or maybe you should just come wake the *** up and smell the coffee son.....he's whatever will suit the opponent he is fighting. Against Juan the extra weight is an advantage so it's 147 all the way, but against Cotto and Margarito it's a disadvantage so it's CW's all the way.

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              #86
              Originally posted by Cash Cow
              WE ALL know that Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk dont have the skill that Oscar had...would you have picked Spinks, Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk over DLH at the time he beat Mayorga and fought Mayweather?
              What made Mayorga at 154 so good that you think Karmazin, Ouma, Dzinziruk, and Spinks couldn't beat that version of Oscar at the time? Because, Mayorga got ruined by a fighter who was coming off a retirement? Or was his dominated victories over Mitchell and Picirillo at 154? What exactly was it?

              And, Martinez would have beaten Oscar at the time. And, he was Oscar mandatory for the WBC belt and Oscar told the WBC to save him from Martinez and the WBC being the crooked mofo's that they're took Martinez off the mandatory status.

              Anyways, that wasn't even my point. My point was that he wasn't rank #1 unless you're talking about other rankings and if that is the case which rankings?

              And, LOL @ you trying to big up a David Diaz level fighter. I'm with Clyde Barrow I'm was not impressed by the Baldomir win either. Why would I be? Because, he beat a shot fighter and edged out head case? Baldomir couldn't hold Margarito jock strap.

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                #87
                Originally posted by COCO jr
                This is pac's run

                Oscar- Trash UD over Forbes (lost his fight before)
                Hatton- Beat the featherfisted Paulie who could not keep him off
                Cotto- Destroyed by Margarito, beat up by Clottey
                Clottey- Faded down the stretch vs Cotto somehow got a pac fight
                Margarito- Destroyed by Mosley.. terrible vs journeyman
                Mosley- Totally outclassed by Mayweather, Barely pulled out a draw vs bum Mora

                I cannot believe he is held in such high regard for this...
                3 opponents Floyd Duck..

                Cotto, Margarito, Clottey...

                and its funny Floyd duck Pacquiao and beat a non-boxer security guard, beat up woman, kids...

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                • Clyde Barrow
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by Cash Cow
                  You werent impressed by the Baldomir win? Um he was Ranked the #1 WW...he has done soemthing that not even Cotto, Clottey or Margarito has done.....and that is BEAT A CHAMPION for his belts....for how GREAT people claim that Cotto, Clottey or Margarito is...none of these guys have EVER beat a champion...lol... they have all got their titles off vacant title bouts...

                  Even the Mayweather hater Dan Rafael thought Baldomir would be a tough fight for Mayweather....Brian Kenny was claiming Mayweather was DUCKING Baldomir when chose to fight Zab first.....

                  You werent impressed with the JMM win? JMM was ranked #2 P4P fighter in the world, a year prior to fighting Mayweather, Manny went life & death with him. Mayweather made Marquez look like he never boxed a day in his life....OHH YEAH thats right Marquez was a blown up lightweight right? Well Marquez only had to gain 7lbs to get to 142 lbs to fight Mayweather......oh well Mayweather only won cause of SIZE right? Well why didnt Margarito beat Pac? hes taller, longer reach, and weighs more....why didnt he do the same thing to Manny that the Bigger Mayweather did to the smaller Marquez? .......MAYBE BECAUSE OF SKILL?
                  Let's not kid ourselves here. Baldomir is a journeyman. The legitimacy of his title reign cannot be questioned, but his caliber of talent is obviously subpar. A lot of fighters who aren't any good win belts. Baldomir is one of them.

                  And the Marquez fight doesn't count for much due to Marquez being 2 fights into his LW run at the time PBF beat him at WW. I don't understand why people try to hype those 2 victories when PBF has other impressive wins on his resume to give him props for. A p4p ranking and a belt, even a Ring belt, don't make a fighter superman. Those wins were not special.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by carlos slim
                    mosley KO margarito
                    marquez KO diaz
                    hatton KO castillo
                    dlh KO mayorga
                    baldomir KO gatti

                    very impressive by floyd...you could criticize the marquez fight but you cant do it with the others....esp baldomir he had a crazy year where he upset judah then KO gatti which no1 thought would happen go back in time im right as usual and floyd brought him back to earth....floyds resume is very impressive....
                    It should be like these...

                    Mayweather wins UD vs Security Guard
                    Mayweather wins UD vs Kids
                    Mayweather wins UD vs Wife
                    mosley KO margarito
                    marquez KO diaz
                    hatton KO castillo
                    dlh KO mayorga
                    baldomir KO gatti

                    Pretty damn impressive specially his last 3 fights.

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                      #90
                      Originally posted by ThePrince
                      Mosley was inactive for a year and 1/3 and was just as shot then as he is now. A lot of *****s tried to pass this off as Floyd's biggest career achievement... Compare what a 'shot' Cotto did to an undefeated champion to what Mosley did with a reality tv fighter, then tell me who is more faded?

                      Marquez is a lightweight, career featherweight. 'Nuff said.

                      Hatton was a light-welter and I don't see how KOing Pac's washed up sparring partner is any more impressive than knocking out the slick Malignaggi (who'd never been KO'd before, even against Cotto).

                      DLH hadn't fought for a year in between Gatti and Mayweather and was coming off a KO loss to Hopkins (by ***** logic). He was a part-time fighter, full-time promoter at that point and STILL got a split decision. Pac showed how you're supposed to handle washed up part-timers (even though Manny was the 2-1 betting underdog).

                      Baldomir... come on

                      So his 'impressive' wins came against a club fighter in Baldomir, an inactive DLH coming off a KO loss to Hopkins, a blown up 140-lber in Hatton, a blown up 135-lber in Marquez, and an old inactive shot Mosley.

                      All by boring decision with the exception of a turnbuckle-assisted TKO with a blown up light-welter.

                      Really impressive stuff
                      LMAo...aww man where do i start...

                      Mosley was ranked #1 @ WW and #3 P4P...STFU

                      Marquez was ranked #2 in the world p4P and just came off knock out wins vs guys who had NEVER been knocked out. 135 + 7 = 142....are you telling me that 7lbs was the difference in the fight? Marquez was soooooo slow that hew threw 100 more punches than Mayweather...yeah OK...people said the same thing about Pac before he jumped 12lbs from 135lbs to fight Oscar....STFU

                      Hatton was actually a WW champ and the JWW champ, undefeated and # 5 on the P4P list when Mayweather beat him. HATTON WAS A "BLOWN UP JWW?...LMAO..... Hatton spent his entire career @140lbs (minus his fights @ww) and during that stint he weighed between 140 & 146 lbs for alot of his fights. Also Hatton has to CUTWEIGHT to even make 140lbs.....oh yeah Hatton only weighed 145lbs vs Mayweather....STFU

                      Oscar actually just knocked out Mayorga, and yeah he took a year off..he was at the weight he was fighting at since 2001, Oscar hasnt been a WW in long time my friend. Mayweather beat Oscar for a legitimate title @154lbs..no catchweight...Manny beat Oscar @147lbs for no title...STFU

                      Baldomir beat that last undisputed WW champ, Baldomir was ranked #1 @ WW at the time mayweather fought him, Cotto & Margarito have NEVER EVER EVER beat a champion for their title.....STFU

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