Boxing: Sport of Fighting or Sport of Punching?

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  • Deevel916
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    #51
    What Joe Rogan stated was that MMA is a sport of different fighting disciplines whereas boxing is just one aspect of fighting.

    He's saying that in mma, you can take on your opponent with knee's, elbows, punches, submissions, etc, and in boxing you can ONLY use your fists.

    Technically he's right.

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    • fabie
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      #52
      Originally posted by fabie
      Boxing is a sport and art of pugilism but it is not limited to a punching sport. This discipline is usage of body mechanics, footwork, evasion maneuvering, angles, and distance.

      It is akin to fencing as a sport wherein it is a disciplined sport. Baseball is another. Soccer too...

      The fact that the art and science of boxing is creative use of punching is a start but cunning/strategizing together with physical conditioning, strength, speed, quickness are the other half.
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      What Joe Rogan stated was that MMA is a sport of different fighting disciplines whereas boxing is just one aspect of fighting.

      He's saying that in mma, you can take on your opponent with knee's, elbows, punches, submissions, etc, and in boxing you can ONLY use your fists.

      Technically he's right.
      Amen...

      But why do we all have to be antagonistic against each other right? Both are awesome sport while BOXING is more of a refined art because of its rich history whereas the MMA is still developing.

      We can see the fine art of pugilism whereas in MMA, mostly, from what I've seen the competitors are just BIG, STRONG, QUICK but no skills. Except for some few out there like Lyoto Machida, Penn, George St. Pierre...

      In MMA, it is too raw for me and thus the allure of boxing concentrates on the skills and art of pugilism. Not downing MMA but they would evolve higher and higher to see some of the traditional martial arts come into play.

      We've seen a mix of Karate (Machida) and boxing (Penn and St. Pierre) and hopefully more. And so it is coming to full circle now as it is getting better from the usual domination of wrestlers.

      Nowadays, the evolution is going with the "balanced" fighters (mentioned above) who can STRIKE as well as WRESTLE.

      With Boxing, we can also see the "raw" fighters who just happened to be STRONG, BIG, QUICK and FAST with no skills/art/science. But it the discipline that forces fighters in boxing to be more well-rounded in their strategy.

      And so it is happening now in MMA too. Gradually. And so I would predict that once we witness that in a widespread, the more St. Pierre, Machida and Penn (obviously there's more skillful and scientific fighers in MMA not mentioned), the more we can see some crossover fans of FIGHTING.

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      • Steven Adams
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        #53
        any mug can street fight...

        not everyone can box so Joe Rogan can kiss my a**

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        • aussie-brawler
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          #54
          this guy is a clown, anybody with any knowledge would call him a clown seconds after hearing him calling the ufc cards. this guy doesnt like boxing because he is probably scared to get hit simple as that. its funny how he goes on about fighting like hes a respected ex fighter. the guy is an ex comedian and an ex televisin show host. That says it all.

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          • rocky_balboa23
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            #55
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy!
            It's not you man, I've had this conversation with a lot of people, heard many say that 80% of the time fights are fought on the ground. See that...I don't see that.
            In my experience as well, seldom does a fight end up on the ground. Ive participated in fights for i think 20 times already in my life. Ive only been to the ground 3 times.

            One time is when there was a chair as we fought inside the house that hampered my movement so I was naturally tacked by my bigger opponent.

            Second one was when my opponent fell down because also of the chair. We fought inside the house.

            And lastly, when it was a 2 on 1 and we fought a guy so much bigger than us. I held the hands of the guy to prevent him from throwing punches and he was too damn strong that we both fell on the ground.

            Other than those incidents, all my fights are stand up. So saying street fights usually end up in the ground is BS.

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            • Davros?
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              #56
              Boxing is more classy than some dirty street fighting rubbish. If i wanna watch some street fighting i will go down to my local pub.

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              • Reed Tard
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                #57
                Originally posted by G Doggy Dog
                The Bert Sugar of MMA, historian Joe Rogan blasted boxing saying it wasnt a sport of fighting, that is was just a sport of punching


                Do U Agree???



                He explains boxing wouldnt be effective in a real street fight, that MMA is more effective since it is as real as it gets



                What R U Thinking?


                Tell Joe Rogan to tell that to GSP, who destroyed Josh Koscheck with a fucking jab 2 and half weeks ago!

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                • gauze
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                  #58
                  if it was a sport of punching i suppose the boxers would be required to stand in a single spot and trade punches like rock em sock em robots. if you ask me, tying up and clinching is an art. not everyone can do it (hmmm, pac vs mosley? lol jk). a lot of my friends outweigh me by 30+ pounds and when i tie up and smother, they seriously dont know what to do. i dont think it's too much different from the ground game in mma. i definitely use my leverage and knowledge of inside fighting to bully bigger guys around. a fight's a fight.

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                  • gauze
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by aussie-brawler
                    this guy is a clown, anybody with any knowledge would call him a clown seconds after hearing him calling the ufc cards. this guy doesnt like boxing because he is probably scared to get hit simple as that. its funny how he goes on about fighting like hes a respected ex fighter. the guy is an ex comedian and an ex televisin show host. That says it all.
                    do you suppose he ever grounded and pounded with andy **** on the set of newsradio?

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