Who Hits Harder: Pacman or Rafael Marquez?

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  • Manny_P
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    #31
    Originally posted by oldgringo
    Eh...Junior Jones and Kennedy McKinney both know something about dropping Barerra and Jones knows something about knocking him out.

    Pacquiao is a devastating overall puncher, but he hasn't shown me lately that he can change the fight with 1 punch. I know Morales can take a hit from the kitchen sink, JMM has a very good chin too, but these guys both took Pacquiaos best shot and kept coming. The top guys in Raf Marquez' division haven't really been able to take his punch.

    KO's over Tim Austin, Too Sharp Johnson, Ruiz and Pastrana are all impressive KO wins. Austin and Too Sharp are both future HOF guys and were extremely tough opponents. He hits like a truck and that's what makes him so amazing. With him it's kill or be killed. I think his power is a bit better than PAcquiao's and Corrales' for his weight.

    sure, Jones dropped Barrera but he couldn't stop him. Pacman did.

    Cmon man! You crazy. You gonna compare Marquez' KO ratings at bantamweight where HE BEEN foreva his carreer gainst Pac's KO ratings at 130lbs, FIRST FIGHT gainst Morales. That's idiotic. Give Pacman 4 fights at 130lbs, and you'll see Pac will win em all EARLY round KOes.



    Marquez look like he can carry his power at super, even featherweight. What bugs me is why ta **** he aint movin up. Super and feather is where ta competition and money is at.

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    • masterdirector
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      #32
      The fact that Pac is 2 weight classes above Marquez alone is strong evidence suggesting Pac probably hits harder.

      Add that to the fact that Pac actually has KO power in his division (unlike, say, JMM) and there's no doubt that Pac hits harder. If Rafael moves up, there's nothing saying he won't hit as hard or harder than Pac. If he even hits as hard, that'd be saying a lot.

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        #33
        Im not gonna vote on either guy,P4P i think Marquez has a slight edge.Pac's left hand is the only one with real power and thats is if he throws his whole body into it.Marquez has more power over all in both hands and he throws his punhes correctly.He doesnt have to run at you to hurt you.Most definitly though when Pac lands the left like he likes to he does more damage.

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          #34
          Originally posted by BROWN BOMBER
          Im not gonna vote on either guy,P4P i think Marquez has a slight edge.Pac's left hand is the only one with real power and thats is if he throws his whole body into it.Marquez has more power over all in both hands and he throws his punhes correctly.He doesnt have to run at you to hurt you.Most definitly though when Pac lands the left like he likes to he does more damage.

          Pacman has power in his right hand. IMO, HBO and ta Marquez fight brainwahsed many people into thinking that Pac's ONLY punch is ta straight left (like I said Pac was injured that night) . Believe me when I say tis. PAC CAN THROW ANY PUNCH in boxing wit great power. It can't be argued that ta straight left is his main arsenal, but he does throw all punches. Wanna know how many fightas he KOed wit a right cross? Alot. Recent one that stands out in ma recollection is Rakitagym who he eventually sent to ta emergency room to get help. YEP he Koed his ass wit a right cross. And jest watch his fight gainst Barrera. He hurt Barrera plenty times wit right crosses. Even Morales tasted them right hooks.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Manny_P
            Pacman has power in his right hand. IMO, HBO and ta Marquez fight brainwahsed many people into thinking that Pac's ONLY punch is ta straight left (like I said Pac was injured that night) . Believe me when I say tis. PAC CAN THROW ANY PUNCH in boxing wit great power. It can't be argued that ta straight left is his main arsenal, but he does throw all punches. Wanna know how many fightas he KOed wit a right cross? Alot. Recent one that stands out in ma recollection is Rakitagym who he eventually sent to ta emergency room to get help. YEP he Koed his ass wit a right cross. And jest watch his fight gainst Barrera. He hurt Barrera plenty times wit right crosses. Even Morales tasted them right hooks.

            I do agree Pacman does have power in his right hand, 12th round of the morales fight those manila ice right hooks shook morales.

            Pacman has devastating power but only when they LAND! he is fighting guys now that are better boxers.

            Pacman has the potential to be a greath body puncher look at the first round of the morales fight he should have kept at it in round two!


            Pacman is a very one dimensional fighter I believe if he used more strategy and smarts in the ring he can be great, but pacman is sorta like tito they get confused easy and dont know how to find solutions.

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              #36
              Originally posted by Manny_P
              Pacman has power in his right hand. IMO, HBO and ta Marquez fight brainwahsed many people into thinking that Pac's ONLY punch is ta straight left (like I said Pac was injured that night) . Believe me when I say tis. PAC CAN THROW ANY PUNCH in boxing wit great power. It can't be argued that ta straight left is his main arsenal, but he does throw all punches. Wanna know how many fightas he KOed wit a right cross? Alot. Recent one that stands out in ma recollection is Rakitagym who he eventually sent to ta emergency room to get help. YEP he Koed his ass wit a right cross. And jest watch his fight gainst Barrera. He hurt Barrera plenty times wit right crosses. Even Morales tasted them right hooks.
              Please show me a fight were Pac koed someone with his right and not his left.Im not saying it doesnt have power but its not the type of power we were talking about.I can show fights were Marquez knocks guys out with the left and the right.hbo cant brain wash me cause I dont really listen to what they have to say.
              I have always seen Pacs ko power punch to the left and the left only if he throws his whole body in the punch.

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                #37
                Originally posted by BROWN BOMBER
                Please show me a fight were Pac koed someone with his right and not his left.Im not saying it doesnt have power but its not the type of power we were talking about.I can show fights were Marquez knocks guys out with the left and the right.hbo cant brain wash me cause I dont really listen to what they have to say.
                I have always seen Pacs ko power punch to the left and the left only if he throws his whole body in the punch.

                like I said, ta Rakiatgym fight is ta most recent one. Ask people who got ta technology to show you that one cuz I aint good wit computers.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by BROWN BOMBER
                  Please show me a fight were Pac koed someone with his right and not his left.Im not saying it doesnt have power but its not the type of power we were talking about.I can show fights were Marquez knocks guys out with the left and the right.hbo cant brain wash me cause I dont really listen to what they have to say.
                  I have always seen Pacs ko power punch to the left and the left only if he throws his whole body in the punch.

                  Pacman is like Kostya except kostya uses his right hand straight.

                  Most one punch power guys are one handed fighters, like tommy hearns, straight right, kostyas straight right, manny pacquiaos straight left, titos left hook.

                  But their are exceptions I think rafa is one of them he has kos from both hands, and so does Tyson.

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                    #39
                    [QUOTE=Manny_P]ta most that impresses me wit Pac is how he stopped Barrera. That jest shows how much powerful Pac is. You don't jest drop Barrera like crazy like that and then TKO him. Morales couldn't do it. Hamed couldn't do it. Pac did it.

                    junior jones did it, he dropped MAB, whipped him twice, the Morales destroyed JJ

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                      #40
                      [QUOTE=goodkingbudpuffer]
                      Originally posted by Manny_P
                      ta most that impresses me wit Pac is how he stopped Barrera. That jest shows how much powerful Pac is. You don't jest drop Barrera like crazy like that and then TKO him. Morales couldn't do it. Hamed couldn't do it. Pac did it.

                      junior jones did it, he dropped MAB, whipped him twice, the Morales destroyed JJ
                      he dropped him. so what. Barrera lost by DQ. Pacman destroyed Barrerea and TKOed him.

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