Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[LeadUppercut]

First off, you need to calm down and start thinking rationally. The first negotiations back in December 2009 were for a Pac-Mayweather fight in March 13, 2010. That ended with 24 days vs. 14 days.

Stop being so fkn ignorant, and stop wasting my time.

Your entire post should end here, because your assertion that Mayweather is ducking, just got blown out of the water kid, by your very own post.

Oh, Manny ducked the fight because of refusal to submit to random blood testing - but let's just completely forget about that - and focus on a "negotiation" that clearly did not happen.

A typically dishonest Manny-fan

The second round of negotiations started April/May 2010 for a November 13, 2010 Pac-Mayweather fight. That ended with 14 days vs. 7 days!!

Once Pac agreed to 7 days, Floyd simply DUCKED!!! Floyd and his team ran out of excuses!! That's why they lied said "no negotiations" took place and that Floyd is "on vacation". Floyd got sooo embarrassed that he even went to Don King. I'm convinced the results of this negotiation is what put Floyd over-the-top mentally and thus the MELTDOWN!!

There was no second negotiation kid, you have your head up your arse.

Explain to me..... how is it even slightly possible for an official negotiation to have taken place when Bob "yesterday I was lying, but today I am telling the truth" Arum completely faked a negotiation and deadline?

A "deadline" that Arum negotiated with GBP is about to expire.....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

The very next day, Arum is forced to admit that he never even spoke with GBP....

http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

Just stop kid, you're embarrasing yourself.

If you wanna take lollies from dirty old men and follow them into the bushes, them by all means, go for it

[LeadUppercut]

Read this adp023......

Seriously kids, you guys defending this are a riot

This is a timeline of excuses regarding drug testing from TEAM PACQUIAO beginning after the Cotto fight at the end of 2009

December 11:

Freddie Roach: I have no problem with the testing whatsoever. They can do whatever (Keyword: Whatever) kind of drug testing that they want.

December 14:

Alex Ariza: I am the one in charge, I am the one responsible for what Manny takes. He has no idea what he takes.


December 22:

Early today Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, was contacted by Top Rank President Todd duBoef, who informed Schaefer that Pacquiao would not agree to have his blood taken within 30-days of the bout based on the fighter’s superstition of testing so close to a fight.

Richard Schaefer: Todd told me that Pacquiao has difficulty with taking blood and doesn’t want to do it so close to the fight. He, Pacquiao, would only agree to have blood drawn before the kick-off press conference and after the fight.

In that same day,

Freddie Roach: A urine test is just as qualified as a blood test. [Human growth hormone] is not detected by blood or urine.”

How is HGH test done?

More than one blood sample must be taken on different days, due to rapid changing levels of growth hormone. A test measuring IGF-1 levels may be taken in conjunction, as its levels change much slower. Before blood is drawn, the administering health professional should be informed of any disorders or medication being taken which can lead to bleeding at the site of the puncture.



December 23:

Bob Arum: Manny says that taking blood from him really weakens him. And he doesn't want to do it when he's in training, but he'll do it prior to going into training, and after the fight. Every major doctor will tell you that blood testing shows absolutely nothing.

Freddie Roach: For the record, Pacquiao (Remember, he said Pacquiao) is willing to have his blood drawn before he starts training and after the fight to be tested for steroids and performance enhancing drugs. It’s not like Pacquiao is saying no to drugs.


December 24:

Arum: This kid has a phobia for getting his blood drawn.

December 25:

Manny Pacquiao plans to sue Floyd Mayweather, the American's father and Golden Boy Promotions in the next few days following a row over doping procedures, the Filipino world champion said in a statement on Friday.

NYDailyNews. Tim Smith,

This isn't some issue that just came about. It has been a part of the contract negotiations for weeks. According to a source familiar with the talks, Pacquiao's representatives asked what penalties Pacquiao would face if he tested dirty, and also if a dirty test result could be kept secret so that the integrity of the fight wouldn't be ruined in the public eye.


December 26:

Manny Pacquiao: I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the Press Release. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room. I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight.

December 28

Manny Pacquiao: I do not have anything to prove (to them) and hopefully, they would not succeed in destroying my image and the sport of boxing in the way they want it done. They want to dictate and step on the authority of the organizations including the Nevada State Athletic Commission. I am not guilty and I don’t have to prove anything because I have passed all tests in all my previous fights. I will all just see you in court.

December 30:

Alex Ariza: He’s willing to give the blood tests – just not two or three days before, for understable reasons.


David Tyler interviews Freddie Roach.

Freddie Roach: HGH cannot be detected by blood, saliva, or urine. The doctors I've talked to said that HGH and any growth harmone cannot be detected by any test.

David Tyler: Fred, I have a graduate's degree in Biochemistry and 30 years experience in developing blood chemistry tests.....I'll leave it alone, let's move foward.

Freddie Roach: No wait, you can't tell me that there is a test that can detect HGH or growth harmones.

David Tyler: Fred, I'm not here to make you mad.

Freddie Roach: I'm not mad, I'm telling you that you are wrong if you think there is a test for HGH.

David Tyler: Ok Fred, so you are saying that HGH cannot be detected by a blood test?

Freddie Roach: Absolutely, 100%, NO! Saliva, blood, or urine.






So, I guess this was all Floyd Sr.'s fault right? I think not.

Men Lie, Women Lie, Quotations don't.

Note: Notice how Roach/ Arum are degrading blood testing in general. [/

[iNDOLiFER]

the worlds greatest!!

[richardt]

Kirby, don't be a fking moron. Pac accepted the demands....there are articles and videos showing this. If you had the sense that God gave an Ant you would know that Mayweather has had over 7 months to accept the fight! ONLY ONE PERSON has asked for the fight then and EVEN recently and that is PAC! Your scumbag Mayweather has DECLINED and in "I AM NOT THINKING ABOUT BOXING". WHAT the hell do you think that means??!!!!!!!! It means Mayweather DOES NOT want to fight Pac or anyone!!!! 2 weeks ago pac expressed the desire to make the fight and NO RESPONSE from Mayweather. Get a clue if you have to beg, borrow, or steal one!!!!

[LeadUppercut]

it's a fake title because both him and margarito were not rated at JMW when they fought so how can they fight for the title?

i'm a pacfan but i'm not as ****** and gullibe as you not to recognize what is legit or not. feel free to dig my posts and if you can see a post where i said pac is the GOAT or 8 div titlist i'll stop posting here...do the same if you can not.

You agree that Manny's JMW title is a joke?

So, have you made a post(s) indicating your opinion on Manny's JMW title ?

I would be interested to see that.

But whether you have or not, don't get grumpy coz a number of genuine boxing fan's point that out to Manny fan-boy's.

If you agree, then you can't complain.

[ALG United]

He never accepted RANDOM testing you idiot. If he did this fight would of happened in March. God you *******s are pathetic. You're suppose to be Asian, why aren't you smart?

Manny Pacquiao: “I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.”

http://beatsboxingmayhem.wordpress.com/2010/11/12/manny-pacquiao-politics-as-usual/

[richardt]

Uppercut, hate to torch you again...it is getting too easy....that was from last year as in 2009. Get with the times. Just say no to deep freeze. Pac accepted since then. Mayweather's response.....a racist rant. For anyone to defend a racist is the true RIOT!!

[LeadUppercut]

Floyd just doesn't have a real foundation. Just look at his Dad & uncle. That explains everything!! You give a spoiled brat success, money & fame, this is what happens. Bernard Hopkins said it best about Floyd even before Floyd had this monstrous meltdown. B-Hop basically said in a radio interview that Floyd will end up like Tyson and in 20 yrs, we'll see a similar "Tyson" documentary about Floyd. He may be right, but I think the difference is that Mike was able to rehabilitate himself. I don't see Floyd having the brutal honesty and psychological aptitude that Mike had.

Now you just sound a butthurt whiney kid, like that richtard idiot.

[LMFAO]

Manny doesn't like losing blood before a fight.

Manny needs to be 100%.

100% Manny doesn't want major life threatening blood loss in fighting Sergio. The same dude who's called out Pacquiao numerous times to fight for his title back that Manny just won in the division Sergio has fought in. The same Manny who it was okay to come in under the limit "because there are no low limits to fight in a certain weight class".

Manny became too small as soon as in-house Cheato handed him his 8th title. Manny's to small to fight the man of the moment who's fought and lost to Cheato years ago.

Pac- Protocol. Boxing must learn to follow it.

[richardt]

ALG - Touche! There it is in plain english below for anyone to see. Kirby and Uppercut need to stop giving blow jobs to a racist who abuses innocent people.

Pacquiao: I feel like I don’t need Mayweather to make my career. I fought the best and anyone willing to face me. I want it, and feel the fans deserve the Mayweather fight. I want to prove to everyone that it wasn’t me who didn’t want the fight. That’s why I made the concession to take anything [blood tests] he wants at any time. Even during the fight before the sixth round if he wanted! What else can I do? I hope we get the fight done soon. Let’s get it on.