Comments Thread For: Pacquiao-Mosley Possible at 148, For WBC 154 Title

[Dan...]

If this fight goes down I am done with Pacquiao. Done.

I've been a fan for years but there is only so much rubbish you can take. This would be beyond ridiculous.

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Uppercut, I mean child....sorry to torch you with your own gun but the article shows there WERE negotiations between Arum and Hayman with Greenburg as the middleman. It uses the word NEGOTIATIONS. You are too ****** for words. Go home little child...you cannot even ****ing read!!!!!! http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

Next time just point the torch at your own head instead of handing it over to me to torch you. Read the article again and then shut the **** up.

Stop being a fkn idiot kid.

HERE IS BOB ARUM LYING TO YOU.....
Bob Arum publicly stated on numerous occasions that he personally negotiated a deal with GBP, who forwarded it to Mayweather for approval. Arum then placed a two week " deadline " on the table, even going to the trouble of putting a count-down timer on the Top Rank website.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29293

HERE IS BOB ARUM ADMITTING IT.....
Then, after Bob Arum's conference call, Schaefer immediately released a statement which forced Arum to admit that both him and Ross Greenburg had NEVER spoken with anyone from GBP.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=29324

THE DEADLINE WAS A SHAM !!

And here is why he did it
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=33218

You sucker richardt.

Clearly, the " deadline " was a sham, so how could there possibly have been an official negotiation you idiot kid?

WHAT SORT OF NEGOTIATION HAS.....
" No meetings, no talks, no agreements, no contracts, no deals.....
..... and ABSOLUTELY NO NEGOTIATION " ???

Stop taking lollies from dirty old men ya dumb kid.

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2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

"I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

"Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

"I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in sh_t neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
The fighter is the only one on the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
Boycott Top Rank.

GOOD POST man.

Manny " padded " Pacquiao is a hype-job, with a manufactured resume'.

Just more Top Rank smoke and mirrors.

[richardt]

Isn't it funny how Uppercut tried to claim there were no negotiations and posted an article that clearly shows there were negotiations between key people. I'm still ROFL!!

Nice to see a brat like Mayweather meltdown because he is torn between keeping his ZERO on the record and not letting Pac get all the publicity. So what does Mayweather do - he decides he wants more ink than pac and does this by causing trouble, lol. All Mayweather has to do is shoot up all his enemies and then his wannabe gansta image will get more ink! So far the plan is working to perfection. All he had to do was fight pac like over 50 fighters have done......but that zero on his record is so important so that he can keep thinking his is better than Ali and Robinson, LOL!!!!!!

[Cash Cow]

2010 - Manny Pacquiao v Antonio Margarito

2010 - Kelly Pavlik v Julio Chavez Jr. (Fight was cancelled due to Pavlik's unfortunate addiction to alcohol, for which he is currently in treatment)

2010 - Miguel Cotto v Yuri Foreman

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Manny Pacquiao

2009 - Miguel Cotto v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Antonio Margarito

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v Joshua Clottey

2008 - Miguel Cotto v Alfonso Gomez

2008 - Manny Pacquiao v David Diaz

1999 - Arum previously denies, but later admits (under oath) during a Federal racketeering trial that he bribed the International Boxing Federation President by paying him $100,000 in order to get the IBF to sanction a George Foreman fight.

1995 - Arum is penalized $125,000 by the Nevada State Athletic Commission for a bribe to get one of his fighters a higher ranking

** It must be noted that the other promoters identified in the Federal sting were New Jersey based promoter Dino Duva, who admitted paying a $25,000 bribe, promoter Cedric Kushner admitted paying $100,000 in bribes and Promoter Don King who was on video tape "regularly" paying for rankings for his fighters.

As the former Harvard Law Student and Federal prosecutor would do in trying to make a case, I am trying to establish a pattern. The pattern is that Bob Arum has been and continues to keep his fighters fighting "in-house," as other promoters call him, "In-House Bob." Quite fitting I believe. The other is to establish the corrupt nature of the promoter, specifically for this article, Bob Arum.
Bob Arum takes 26% of Manny's and other fighters' purse and as long as Manny and other Top Rank fighters continue to fight Top Rank fighters, Bob will continue to take in upwards up 52% of the total fight purse.
While this may sound like good business to some of you, the fact that there are very good candidates in other promotional companies that would give Manny Pacquiao and other Top Rank belt holders a very good fight, and would actually display some lateral movement, probably scares old Bob.
I for one believe that Andre Berto should be the fighter who is next in line for Manny. (I obviously would like to see the fight that the rest of the world would like to see, but let's put that debate aside for now). However, after watching Berto's last performance, I'm sure Bob does not want to take that chance. This is the same reason that Bob recently turned down $5 million for a Sergio Martinez v Miguel Cotto match. Bob knows that Miguel would lose his WBA belt and would rather match him up with another Top Rank fighter so as to pad his pockets more and keep a belt-holder in the stable, regardless of the outcome. It's a win-win for Bob, but nothing but a losing scenario for fight fans. And now with Shane Mosley all but signed to Top Rank, maybe just for a Pacquiao fight, Manny will surely fight another Top Rank fighter.
The below is a recent quote from Bob regarding the backlash from fans and bloggers regarding a match-up between Manny Pacquiao and Shane Mosley...

"I don't care. I don't care what the so-called boxing fans and bloggers have to say. I really don't."

You don't care? You don't care about the people that spend their hard-earned money, especially in these historically bad economic times? Who do you think pays to watch your fights?

The below quote is Bob's take on HBO and Showtime putting together fights on their own. (only because Arum proposed fights that neither company wanted to put up money for, I'm guessing they were all Top Rank fighters if I follow history)

"Instead of working with promoters, like they have done in the past, they have become promoters themselves. They make the fights just like promoters and pay fighters", Arum said. "It's their money and they can do what they want, but Don King doesn't have to go along with it and neither do I. King and I can get along without HBO or Showtime."

To which I say good luck you selfish prick.

Last but not least is my favorite Bob Arum quote...

"I was lying yesterday. Today I am telling the truth."

Bob Arum, YOU are what is ruining this sport. The prevention of the best fighters fighting the best opposition will continue to hinder the sport and prevent it from reaching it's potential as it has previously in decades past.
You are, and have been ruining the sport I love and kept me out of trouble as a youth. I truly believe that if it was not for the sport of boxing and my local PAL, I would not have graduated college with two degrees, much less graduated from High School. This is why I am so boisterous about this topic, because I see the problem with the sport that helped me and so many others through adolescence in sh_t neighborhoods, yet nothing seems to be done about it. So I am calling for a boycott of Top Rank Promotions. If we cannot have a single commission in charge, then we must weed out what is wrong with the sport and start with the promoters who refuse to "not care" what the people who pay them want.
The fighter is the only one on the ring taking the beating. There is no pension, no medical insurance and no one to give any legal advise. In fact, some promoters actually prohibit fighters from seeking outside, independent legal opinions. So again, if we cannot have a single commission, then we must weed out the corrupt promoter and start at the "Top."
Boycott Top Rank.

WOW

****ing wow

[brick wall]

Marquez owned that SOB then he ran up to a higher weight.

right...because the higher weights are less dangerous. how convenient for pac to run to higher weight

[Champ Is Here]

ROFFL

Pac exposed as a p****

Floyd still number 1, its official

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last time i checked martinez has a MW title. he used to be a JMW i agree if that's what you're trying to say.
you shouldn't be insisting on pac having a JMW title because everyone knows that you and your minions never recognized that title as something legit...it's a paper title he won by weighing 144 lbs for a 150 catchweight. his weigh-in was lower than the regular welter but for a JMW title...those were the facts. so what does that tell you? his 144 lbs weigh-in was real...his JMW is fake. so is he really a JMW? even someone with a half-brain knows he is not.

And you accept that ?

You accept that Manny walks around claiming to be the GOAT because he is the only 8-division titlist? Greater than Moore?

*** off.

[adp023]

What The *** ??

How the hell could you make that statement and keep a straight face after pointing out that link was dated in May 2010?

Dude, get a grip, the negotiations were back in Dec 2009, and that fight fell through because Manny would NOT AGREE to random blood testing within 24 days.....
http://www.boxingscene.com/?m=show&id=27427

Who fkn cares what PR rubbish Team Pacquiao spewed while they were planning to fight Margarito?

Get a grip, Manny proudly states that he is NOW ready to accept random blood tests, and Mayweather has to run back to the table??

What the *** are you on, thinking that the whole world revolves around Manny? Get a grip Manny-fan's, you guys are becoming a joke.

First off, you need to calm down and start thinking rationally. The first negotiations back in December 2009 were for a Pac-Mayweather fight in March 13, 2010. That ended with 24 days vs. 14 days.

The second round of negotiations started April/May 2010 for a November 13, 2010 Pac-Mayweather fight. That ended with 14 days vs. 7 days!!

Once Pac agreed to 7 days, Floyd simply DUCKED!!! Floyd and his team ran out of excuses!! That's why they lied said "no negotiations" took place and that Floyd is "on vacation". Floyd got sooo embarrassed that he even went to Don King. I'm convinced the results of this negotiation is what put Floyd over-the-top mentally and thus the MELTDOWN!!

[the niggest]

Pac is god damn JOKE! Only ****** dumbass philipino *******s will still defend him after this. **** manny *****iao.