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[Walt Liquor]

Manny's most high profile wins:
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
Hatton
De La Hoya
Cotto
Margarito

Hopkins:
Trinidad
Pavlik
Pascal
Tarver
De La Hoya
Winky Wright

I don't see how you argue those names for Hopkins over those names for Pacquiao. Especially considering Pavlik and Wright were at catchweights, which everyone rips Pac for, and both Trinidad and Oscar were both much smaller. Pac is getting ripped for beating the hell out of bigger guys people thought he wouldn't beat while Hopkins is getting praised as a messiah for fighters smaller than him people thought he wouldn't beat.

while I appreciate your boxrec skills, that site fails to tell the real story.

Bhop unified all the belts at mw. Bhop was served up to Trinidad who was decapitating mw's. Do you remember? Trinidad was 40-0. Prime.

Go ahead, I can stop there. Your turn.

Name me manny's "Trinidad" win. Name the divisions he beat any and all comers in and all the other beltholders?

While you're at it. Do the same for floyd?

Corrales? Check who corrales beat n4 Floyd and check who Trinidad beat b4 bhop. Name the division that Floyd decimated?

[Left Hook Tua]

Don't change your story tua. You said they were worse wins than manny and floyd's tuneups.

Although, just the fact that bhop was betting underdog should let you know what kind of fights they were percieved to be at the time. You're a momday morning qb, nothing more.

I know you weren't ****ting on those fights the the time like everyone has rightfully been ahitting on Floyd and manny's engineered careers. Especially floyds.

Mammy can turn it around as I mentioned.

and i've mentioned a tuneup for each that i think were better.


this thread is a joke and i will treat it as such.


always happens when a guy gets a good win , people start overrating the **** out of him.

oh wait....hopkins didn't even win. my bad.

[bojangles1987]

while I appreciate your boxrec skills, that site fails to tell the real story.

Bhop unified all the belts at mw. Bhop was served up to Trinidad who was decapitating mw's. Do you remember? Trinidad was 40-0. Prime.

Go ahead, I can stop there. Your turn.

Name me manny's "Trinidad" win. Name the divisions he beat any and all comers in and all the other beltholders?

While you're at it. Do the same for floyd?

Corrales? Check who corrales beat n4 Floyd and check who Trinidad beat b4 bhop. Name the division that Floyd decimated?

Why is that always the first insult people go to, boxrec? If I went on boxrec for any of those names, I would have brought up Glen Johnson or Robert Allen or Echols.

Manny's Trinidad win? Barrera. Top 5 p4per, coming off embarrassing Hamed, Pacquiao was given little chance, and he obliterated him. He hasn't dominated a division because he's too busy moving up and obliterating guys. He seems to be in the process of cleaning out welterweight, in case you didn't notice.

Floyd doesn't have a win quite like the Trinidad win, I'll give you that. He did clean out 130. By the way, I have not once argued that Floyd belongs higher on an ATG list than Hopkins.

[PACnPBFsuck]

Care to elaborate? You trying to tell me Pac isn't getting ripped for beating Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Hatton, who are all bigger than him? Do you see the threads made here daily?

Cotto wasn't bigger than PAC

Hatton wasn't bigger than PAC

Clottey was 1lb heavier and 1" taller

Margarito is the only person who Pac has faced who was taller and heavier, so you see, you saying that PAC has been facing bigger fighters his whole career is pure Bull****.

[Left Hook Tua]

Why is that always the first insult people go to, boxrec? If I went on boxrec for any of those names, I would have brought up Glen Johnson or Robert Allen or Echols.

Manny's Trinidad win? Barrera. Top 5 p4per, coming off embarrassing Hamed, Pacquiao was given little chance, and he obliterated him. He hasn't dominated a division because he's too busy moving up and obliterating guys. He seems to be in the process of cleaning out welterweight, in case you didn't notice.

Floyd doesn't have a win quite like the Trinidad win, I'll give you that. He did clean out 130. By the way, I have not once argued that Floyd belongs higher on an ATG list than Hopkins.

i wish walt uses boxrec.

then maybe he'd know that hopkins didn't win against taylor.


also how ****ty taylor and pavlik's resume is.

[PACnPBFsuck]

while I appreciate your boxrec skills, that site fails to tell the real story.

Bhop unified all the belts at mw. Bhop was served up to Trinidad who was decapitating mw's. Do you remember? Trinidad was 40-0. Prime.

Go ahead, I can stop there. Your turn.

Name me manny's "Trinidad" win. Name the divisions he beat any and all comers in and all the other beltholders?

While you're at it. Do the same for floyd?

Corrales? Check who corrales beat n4 Floyd and check who Trinidad beat b4 bhop. Name the division that Floyd decimated?

They won't be able to, because it hasn't happened yet.

[bojangles1987]

Cotto wasn't bigger than PAC

Hatton wasn't bigger than PAC

Clottey was 1lb heavier and 1" taller

Margarito is the only person who Pac has faced who was taller and heavier, so you see, you saying that PAC has been facing bigger fighters his whole career is pure Bull****.

I didn't say his whole career, and WOW that you don't think Cotto, Hatton, and Clottey are bigger than Pacquiao. That's astoundingly dumb.

[PACnPBFsuck]

I didn't say his whole career, and WOW that you don't think Cotto, Hatton, and Clottey are bigger than Pacquiao. That's astoundingly dumb.

I just explained to you that 2 of the 4 guys are exactly Pac's size, how is that difficult to comprehend.

Explained to me then in what way were Cotto and Hatton bigger?

[Walt Liquor]

Seems like some people are a bit jealous of all the undefeated young beastly contenders on bhops's resume that they can't find on their own fighters resume.

Glen Johnson was 30something-0.
Trinidad 40-0.
Jt was a disputed loss but he was like 21-0
kelly pavlik was around 30-0.
Joe cal was like 39-0.
roy was 21-0 when the fought I believe.

Sure bhop has some l's on his record, but he's challenged himself vs a greater array of fighters by far than manny and Floyd and that's why he's atg.

He has no decisive losses since roy. I'd rather my guy fight better fighters than pick and choose leftovers and over the hill long past it guys.

Just even trying to type that the margs win for PAC shi ts on the pavlik or pascal wins warrants your boxing card getting pulled.

[bojangles1987]

I just explained to you that 2 of the 4 guys are exactly Pac's size, how is that difficult to comprehend.

Explained to me then in what way were Cotto and Hatton bigger?

I don't know, the fact that Cotto comes in the ring at 155 or so and Pac is 147 or 148? The fact that I can look at them in the ring together and see that Cotto and Hatton were bigger? You know, common sense like that.