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  • #11
    Originally posted by bojangles1987 View Post
    I have all the respect in the world for Hopkins, but he's not above Manny. You're acting like he wasn't refusing to step in the ring with Chad Dawson the last year.
    He had legit reasons. Chad brings nothing to the table, no excitement, no fanbase, no money, and very little intrigue because he went life and death with glen Johnson and wasn't fighting much himself. Chad was bullshi tting and demanding this and that, which he never really earned the right to do.

    So instead, he fights the guy who whooped Chad, has a huge fanbase and held the lineal championship.


    For those in here shi tting on manny, don't forget manny is still active and can reverse his recent trend of shi t fights (although he is very entertaining). Manny just needs to step it up so he's not remembered the way Floyd is gonna be remembered.

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    • #12
      I agree, Hopkins has taken on all sorts of styles, always put up a challenge. Pacquiao's having a hard time "trying" to get Mayweather in the ring, which is frustrating because Mayweather's style is a nightmare in my eyes for Pacquiao. Its a shame Cotto didn't start using movement until it was too late. I just think so far it's amazing how many weight divisions Pacquiao has gone through and somewhat dominated, but I believe since the 2nd Marquez fight, his career has been engineered pretty well.

      Onto Hopkins, I hate watching him fight, but he completely nullifies all his opponents strengths, and more often than not forces them to fight his fight. I feel frustrated watching, so I can't imagine how his opponent feels. Hopkins trying to get a rematch with Jones Jr. was equally as frustrating as the situation now with Mayweather and Pacquiao. However outside of that he took the challenges alot of people didn't want.

      Hopkins is a pretty spectacular athlete, and to still be doing what he's doing is amazing. To be honest in my eyes anyway, Pacquiao dosen't even come into the same equation with Hopkins and Mayweather. Mayweather's one of the most naturally talented boxers I've seen, and Hopkins has achieved beyond what you expect of him. I know people will disagree but Hopkins and Mayweather just have something more imo. Although I'm not denying it's cool that Pacquiao's come from an extremely poor background, winning his 1st title at flyweight, to what weight he's campaigning at now.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
        He had legit reasons. Chad brings nothing to the table, no excitement, no fanbase, no money, and very little intrigue because he went life and death with glen Johnson and wasn't fighting much himself. Chad was bullshi tting and demanding this and that, which he never really earned the right to do.

        So instead, he fights the guy who whooped Chad, has a huge fanbase and held the lineal championship.


        For those in here shi tting on manny, don't forget manny is still active and can reverse his recent trend of shi t fights (although he is very entertaining). Manny just needs to step it up so he's not remembered the way Floyd is gonna be remembered.
        hopkins was scared of chad dawson. end of.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Di Bushbaby View Post
          So there I was all hyped to come make this exact tread & U beat me to it,damn!!A fellow boxing fan that can see what it is for what it is!!U forgot to mention that half of the guys he beat,He was supposed to lose to!!Floyd & Manny were favored in almost all of they're biggest fights!!Matter of fact if I'm not mistaken the only fight in recent memory where Pacman wasn't favored was against Oscar!!
          datS right bush!

          Bhop was served up on a silver platter to Trinidad, and was a big underdog.

          He was betting ud's to pavlik, pascal, tarver, at least.

          Name 4 people Floyd was betting ud against?

          Now manny is much closer to nard as far as career and challenges go, but he's just not quite there yet . Listen, nard cleaned out mw, has manny done that? His career above mw has been scalphunting lineal legit champs (tarver, pavlik, pascal), hof'ers (joecal-who was lineal at 168), and just one real money grab-roy. WTF? Manny of Floyd can say nothing like that in the last 4-5 years.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            hopkins was scared of chad dawson. end of.
            Can you please take that bucket o' jollibee outta yo sig...

            Every time I look at it I have the urge to drive to my nearest jollibee and rob the place blind of all they chicken...

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
              datS right bush!

              Bhop was served up on a silver platter to Trinidad, and was a big underdog.

              He was betting ud's to pavlik, pascal, tarver, at least.

              Name 4 people Floyd was betting ud against?

              Now manny is much closer to nard as far as career and challenges go, but he's just not quite there yet . Listen, nard cleaned out mw, has manny done that? His career above mw has been scalphunting lineal legit champs (tarver, pavlik, pascal), hof'ers (joecal-who was lineal at 168), and just one real money grab-roy. WTF? Manny of Floyd can say nothing like that in the last 4-5 years.
              Yeah,he's closer,but I look at his fights & I see a lot of suspect things on there,IMO his most credible wins of the last couple years above 135 are Hatton & Oscar!!Cotto at 145 left me thinking,then he fought Clottey at the full weight & added Margarito in a bull**** title fight,now they're considering Mosley,but they & many (Pacman fans) are pissed at the former title holder Martinez for saying he'll fight him for his 154lb title!!But most people that know know's I can't stand Floyd,but he was criticized for not fighting Mosley,but when he did,the excuses started pouring out,now all of a sudden,half the critics tune has changed to"well can Manny be the 1st to stop Mosley"??Unfair,& very!!

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              • #17
                Originally posted by -Executioner- View Post
                Can you please take that bucket o' jollibee outta yo sig...

                Every time I look at it I have the urge to drive to my nearest jollibee and rob the place blind of all they chicken...
                don't forget to steal the gravy.

                best part of jollibee is the gravy.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                  don't forget to steal the gravy.

                  best part of jollibee is the gravy.
                  **** you Tua..



                  I'm shit outta luck since it's 6:17 right now and jollibee happens to be closed..

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    hopkins was scared of chad dawson. end of.
                    I'm glad you found one person to grab a hold of as someone bhop recently avoided, allegedly. Shall I list all of the fights manny and Floyd have avoided recently? We can go that route and I can easily chop both their opposition to bits compared to nard's, just by all the fighters they've not managed to get in the ring with.

                    To the other poster, how are you gonna say manny's career has been "engineered" lately and not talk about floyd's career being engineered. Which is has been worse than manny's.

                    Being an athletically, naturally gifted boxer is great, but not proving it and displaying your skills vs the best sucks ass and that's Floyd in a nutshell and that's an indisputable fact. So no, Floyd is not in a separate class from manny.

                    Jmm is closer to nard as far as having the stones to fight the best goes.

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                    • #20
                      Hopkins just refused to fight Williams and Dawson just last year homie.

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