Who Won - Bernard Hopkins OR Jean Pascal?

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  • badnewsbrown
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    #81
    clear win for hopkins. im from the uk

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    • OptimusWolf
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      #82
      Originally posted by lfc19titles
      I did not know the outcome, just downloaded at watched it

      R1 10-8 pascal (50-50 on the knockdown, not sure if it was legit or not, good cases for both sides)
      R2 10-9 hopkins, really tight round, could go either way
      R3 10-8 pascal, Hopkins should have been deducted a point at the end for hitting after the bell
      R4 10-9 hopkins
      R5 10-9 pascal, like the 2nd round really tight, could go either way
      R6 10-9 hopkins, pathetic round by pascal, poor work rate, its like he is the 45 year old
      R7 10-9 hopkins, total domination
      R8 10-9 hopkins, tight round, could have gone either way
      R9 10-9 hopkins, pascal may have won the last 30 seconds but Hopkins won it for me in the first minute
      R10 10-9 pascal, again like 3 of the earlier rounds, tight but I think pascal did enough to win this
      R11 10-9 hopkins, both landed good hits but Hopkins activity won this round for me
      R12 10-9 pascal, landed the cleaner shots for me took this round imo
      113 pascal
      113 hopkins

      Honest to god, I did not know the score before hand and just watched the fight, I had it a 113-113 draw but either guy could have won it by a point in this one
      good of you to put your score up.

      I had it, on first viewing (pascal score first)
      1: 10-8
      2: 10-9
      3: 10-8 (Hopkins had better of round but KD'd)
      4: 9-10
      5: 9-10 (v close)
      6: 9-10
      7: 9-10
      8: 9-10
      9: 9-10
      10: 10-9 (v close)
      11: 9-10
      12:9-10 (but v close)

      114-112 Hopkins. Couple of close rounds that could have gone to Pascal - he did land the harder shots it seemed but was outlanded in all rounds past round 3 I think

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      • Pu$$yKiller
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        #83
        I didn't score it, but Pascal did a lot early on.

        I think from the 5th Hopkins took over, but if you gave any close round to Pascal, then a draw could have happened.

        Emmanuel Steward says there are comparative rounds where one guy didn't clearly win it, but because he lost everything, he gets given it

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          #84
          One of the most one sided polls(vote wise) in boxing scene history. Although a draw isn't the craziest thing, it was pretty clear that Hopkins won by 2 points.

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          • bojangles1987
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            #85
            Originally posted by OptimusWolf
            good of you to put your score up.

            I had it, on first viewing (pascal score first)
            1: 10-8
            2: 10-9
            3: 10-8 (Hopkins had better of round but KD'd)
            4: 9-10
            5: 9-10 (v close)
            6: 9-10
            7: 9-10
            8: 9-10
            9: 9-10
            10: 10-9 (v close)
            11: 9-10
            12:9-10 (but v close)

            114-112 Hopkins. Couple of close rounds that could have gone to Pascal - he did land the harder shots it seemed but was outlanded in all rounds past round 3 I think
            That's almost exactly how I had it, except I gave the fifth and the twelfth to Pascal. So with the knockdowns, I had it a draw. Hopkins arguably clean swept the fight after the fourth.

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            • Slick_Rick
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              #86
              I don't understand why people are claiming robbery so much. Ok, Hopkins appeared the more dominate fighter. But people seem to be forgetting the KD's.
              You could argue Pascal was 5 points up going into the 4th, where from there on in Hopkins did begin to dominate, but even still he had to claw his way back from already a big point deficit and you could have easily given round 12 and another close round somewhere in there to Pascal.

              Performance wise Hopkins deserved it, but that seems to be blinding people when judging round by round.

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              • Ishy Aytan
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                #87
                Round of a plause for Hopkins! Vintage performance, really should have won.

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                • Chups
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                  #88
                  It did look like Bernard was robbed coz the knockdown weren't really knockdowns. But because it counted, Hop needed to climb a mountain to get back which he did. The draw decision was fair.

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                  • BoxingTech718
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                    #89
                    First of all the first KD was to the back of the head. Then B-Hop won every round except the ones he got KD in. Pascal wasn't doing anything except maybe the first 4 rounds after that domination by the old man. Pascal is a bum who just got lucky Dawson slept on him that's all.

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                    • xAUGUSTUSx
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by markfrombrookly
                      Hopkins won. When a French judge scores it a tie then you know that he definitely won.
                      Hey dum dum a non french and non Canadian scored it as a draw aswell. My ****in GF had it a draw but you clowns can't score fights. Boxing is scored on a round by round basis. There has been bigger robberies than this. Hopkins should've known this was a possibility when he signed the contract. You don't clearly win when you were dropped twice. Alot of people tend to give the rounds to the puncher. I'm fine with the draw. If anyone deserved to win it was Hopkins but the draw was not a robbery.

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