Vitali would beat your fav HW from any era

[cupocity303]

lmao at a tko on cuts being considered a legitimate win...yeah, Lennox must have been practicing his cut inducing punching techniques for weeks leading up to the fight...LOL!!!

The thing is, if the situation were reversed. And Lennox was ahead on the scorecards and the ref stopped the fight because of Lennox's cut, we would be hearing all about it.

Vitali would get reamed for getting saved by the ref.

[jrosales13]

You do understand that the fight was stopped by the ref without Vitali's consent, do you? He protested and wanted to continue.

So when you say stoppage or TKO, it's not exactly the same as the countless opponents who quit on their stool and fail to come out for the next round, or the ref stoppage because a fighter is taking too much punishment. That's why when I say "Vitali was ahead on the scorecards" is relevant to the argument. The man who was ahead and was still in the fight, and willing to fight on, was prohibited to continue.

Lennos didn't stop ****, the ref did. Once you get that, then we can progress this convo.

Lennox didn't stop shit? Yea cuz Vitaly face got like that on it's own.

You're right again, you win...Lennox didn't land anything significant to Vitaly, he wasn't the better man, he was in shape, vitaly was green, his eye wasn't falling off, he was beating ass, he was the better man, he really didn't lose to Lewis, in a strange way he beat Lewis I guess IDK... he is the GOAT.

Really no need for this convo to progress. You made it perfectly clear that Vitaly is pretty much undefeated. And, that is all I need to hear to know if I should take you serious or not on the issue.

[jrosales13]

Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

One armed Vitali dominated Byrd.

Did he or did he not quit?

Marcel Cerdan went 9 rounds with Lamotta with just one arm...9 rounds...not with a feather fisted fighter but the raging bull.

That is what a fighter does with a freak injury...

You tried to use a ******ed ass logic but the fact is that Vitaly quit against Byrd. When other fighters have toughen out with an injury and go the distance especially a fight that they dominated. Hell Yuri Foreman wanted to keep on going with just one leg so lets not make excuses.

Yes he had a severe injury but he also quit did he not?

[cupocity303]

Lennox didn't stop shit? Yea cuz Vitaly face got like that on it's own.

You're right again, you win...Lennox didn't land anything significant to Vitaly, h.

Don't twist my words out of context. I never said that Lewis didn't cause the cut.

But It doesn't matter if Lewis caused the cut or not, he didn't TKO Klitschko or injure him to the point that Vitali either quit on his own, his corner stopped it, or the ref stopped it.

It was a forced stoppage and Vitali could've still won the fight (I.E. the scorecards). And I emphasize the word "COULD", before you go on a rant that Vitali was starting to get broken down. As I said, we can all speculate on what could've/would've happened had it continued, and we both would probably be biased.

[Las Vegas,]

[cupocity303]

Lets follow up on that logic.

Who is the current Chin proof, Iron Chin of Boxing. Margarito? No, he got chin checked, so did P.Will, so did Andrade.

Ok then, lets use Alfredo Angulo for this example shall we. He has a pretty good chin. It's been tested and he hasn't been hurt or Tko'd yet.

So Alfredo Angulo is ahead on the scorecard and bam, he gets cut, his opponent is in the fight starting to bounce back, things are getting interested. But wait, the doctor looks at the cut and stop the fight.......GAME OVER.

A guy who was yet to be Ko'd or hurt, Mr. Unknockoutable suffers his first TKO loss. Now how would that look. And Angulo goes on to never get TKO'd again.

[jrosales13]

Don't twist my words out of context. I never said that Lewis didn't cause the cut.

But It doesn't matter if Lewis caused the cut or not, he didn't TKO Klitschko or injure him to the point that Vitali either quit on his own, his corner stopped it, or the ref stopped it.

It was a forced stoppage and Vitali could've still won the fight (I.E. the scorecards). And I emphasize the word "COULD", before you go on a rant that Vitali was starting to get broken down. As I said, we can all speculate on what could've/would've happened had it continued, and we both would probably be biased.

Vitaly suffered a bad cut...If anybody says otherwise it just a joke because it was a serious cut.

Lewis caused that cut.

The fight was stopped and right fully cuz his eye was in bad shape cuz of that cut which Lewis caused.

So I fail to see the controversy.

I fail to see how somehow that lost doesn't really count Vitaly.

Because, he was winning on the scorecards for 6 rounds? So the fuck what.

[jrosales13]

Lets follow up on that logic.

Who is the current Chin proof, Iron Chin of Boxing. Margarito? No, he got chin checked, so did P.Will, so did Andrade.

Ok then, lets use Alfredo Angulo for this example shall we. He has a pretty good chin. It's been tested and he hasn't been hurt or Tko'd yet.

So Alfredo Angulo is ahead on the scorecard and bam, he gets cut, his opponent is in the fight starting to bounce back, things are getting interested. But wait, the doctor looks at the cut and stop the fight.......GAME OVER.

A guy who was yet to be Ko'd or hurt, Mr. Unknockoutable suffers his first TKO loss. Now how would that look. And Angulo goes on to never get TKO'd again.

That would like a damn lost.

What other way would it be looked as?

And, it should count as a lost and their should be no excuses about it.

[cupocity303]

So the fuck what.

Exactly, you're not getting it.

There would be no controversy if Lewis was winning anyway, and the ref stopped the fight despite Vitali protesting.

But you won't get that either. So we'll just agree to disagree.

[cupocity303]

That would like a damn lost.

What other way would it be looked as?

And, it should count as a lost and their should be no excuses about it.

Disagreed.