Vitali would beat your fav HW from any era

[cupocity303]

I go with C. The guy who wasn't taken training serious cuz he felt his original opponent wasn't a threat.

I'm not buying that excuse. I give Lennox more credit than that.

He did that for the first Rahman fight, which was only two fights ago. You mean to tell me, he went back to doing exactly that only after two wins following that Ko loss? Has he not learned anything.

Me thinks that while perhaps not in the greatest shape of his career, he was still in pretty good shape, it's just that he fought a guy his own size and weight, who was leaning on him and wearing him out. It's much easier stamina wise, to punch down at a 5'11 former shell of himself than it is to punch up at a 6'7 guy.




Sidenote: Might not be relevant, but he did tell the HBO commentators that he was in great shape when they were interviewing him just a few weeks before the Vitali fight.

[shugg1967]

no oe thinks they should not fight there fight..its sad there no one to fight and the only real fighter vitali fought he got beat ..thats a fact not hate

[shugg1967]

but it was'nt a easy nite..lol..oh who went to get there eye sewed up ....anyone with a brain knows he got beat oh thats a fact

[BoxingTech718]

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[jrosales13]

I'm not buying that excuse. I give Lennox more credit than that.

He did that for the first Rahman fight, which was only two fights ago. You mean to tell me, he went back to doing exactly that only after two wins following that Ko loss? Has he not learned anything.

Me thinks that while perhaps not in the greatest shape of his career, he was still in pretty good shape, it's just that he fought a guy his own size and weight, who was leaning on him and wearing him out. It's much easier stamina wise, to punch down at a 5'11 former shell of himself than it is to punch up at a 6'7 guy.




Sidenote: Might not be relevant, but he did tell the HBO commentators that he was in great shape when they were interviewing him just a few weeks before the Vitali fight.

All fighters say they were in great shape even though they're not. That is like the biggest cliche in boxing especially for older fighters "I'm in the best shape of my life" "I feel strong" and blah blah...

He came weighed in the heaviest he has ever for a fight. And, no I don't think he learned his lesson. I didn't think he saw Kirk Johnson as a threat and I don't think he saw Vitaly as a threat either FWIW cuz choosing him to fight in short notice the way he did.

[cupocity303]

no oe thinks they should not fight there fight..its sad there no one to fight and the only real fighter vitali fought he got beat ..thats a fact not hate

What's so great about Lennos Lewis's list of opponents? If we're gonna play that game and **** on the entire crop of current "Top" Heavyweights to make a point, then lets play.

Lennox got beat by Oliver McCall? Who?

Hasim Rahman? The only relevant thing he did prior to the upset in Africa was a highlight reel Ko loss to Maskaev, via getting Ko'd into the commentators lap. Oh wait here comes the excuse for that loss. Well then Vitali should have an excuse for his losses too, shouldn't he. Messed up shoulder, and a messed up eye that forced a stoppage eh.

Lets move on to who Lewis actually beat. David Tua? Tua is a great ****er with a chin but nothing more, if he was a quality win on Lewis's resume, lets get a time machine and bring a PRIME DAVID TUA to year 2010 and watch The Klitschko's not only dominate him every round like Lennox, but TKO him as well.

Holyfield? Yeah there is your argument, Lewis beat The Real Deal.......YOU WIN.

[shugg1967]

I agree with you on some of that ..no doubt that most HW's from the past could not beat them but Lewis & maybe tyson in his prime they would have trouble and lewis has beat vitali so i just dont know what most people see in them..they cant help that there no great fights for the but that does help them look better than they are

[BoxingTech718]

Wait didn't Vitali lose to a way past prime Lennox lol!
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[cupocity303]

All fighters say they were in great shape even though they're not. That is like the biggest cliche in boxing especially for older fighters "I'm in the best shape of my life" "I feel strong" and blah blah...

He came weighed in the heaviest he has ever for a fight. And, no I don't think he learned his lesson. I didn't think he saw Kirk Johnson as a threat and I don't think he saw Vitaly as a threat either FWIW cuz choosing him to fight in short notice the way he did.

Here is the thing. Lets buy your theory, fine.

Since you put a Asterisk around that fight and what happened, it's only fair to the same in Vitali's favor, don't you think.

Fine, Vitali was in great shape and he was supposed to fight some other guy on the same card. The thing is, a rematch needed to happen for all kinds of reasons. For the reason you stated, Lewis in fighting shape. And two, Vitali was green, wet behind his ears on the high level stage. It was his intro into the Championship level, and we all know what happened since Lewis didn't face him again, he dominated ever since.

A rematch would've resoleved a lot, we would've seen a better shaped Lewis Vs a perhaps improved Vitali, who learned something facing Lewis. OR MAYBE NOT, maybe the story is that Lewis was past his prime, Vitali struggled and therefore LEWIS >>> VITALI end of argument.

The thing is, that's not fair to a guy like Vitali who went on to dominate whoever was put in front of him and couldn't ever get Lewis back, to avenge that loss. A controversial loss at that, one he had no control over.

[JDezi4]

Considering he never faced anyone near the skill level and ability of any of those top guys, I don't know why ur so confident.