Vitali would beat your fav HW from any era

[jrosales13]

Here is the thing. Lets buy your theory, fine.

Since you put a Asterisk around that fight and what happened, it's only fair to the same in Vitali's favor, don't you think.

Fine, Vitali was in great shape and he was supposed to fight some other guy on the same card. The thing is, a rematch needed to happen for all kinds of reasons. For the reason you stated, Lewis in fighting shape. And two, Vitali was green, wet behind his ears on the high level stage. It was his intro into the Championship level, and we all know what happened since Lewis didn't face him again, he dominated ever since.

A rematch would've resoleved a lot, we would've seen a better shaped Lewis Vs a perhaps improved Vitali, who learned something facing Lewis. OR MAYBE NOT, maybe the story is that Lewis was past his prime, Vitali struggled and therefore LEWIS >>> VITALI end of argument.

A rematch is fine, but if Lennox wanted felt that he nothing else to prove, he wanted to go out on top, I will not knock him. I didn't knock Vitaly either when he went on his little retirement instead of fighting Rahman a fight that he postponed numerous times cuz of an injury so why would I know Lennox for retiring.

However, shape or out of shape, prime or past prime, short notice or not. Lennox beat Vitaly no if's or buts about it. He beat him, TKO'd him, busted his face up. Lennox Lewis won fair and square.

Why Klitschko fans try to diminish or take away from that win is beyond me.
OK, the rematch would of been great but it didn't happen, accepted that he lost to the better man that night and move on.

[BoxingTech718]

[BoxingTech718]

Hell I think prime George Foreman would have killed Vitali. Young foreman is why Ali's health deteriorated later on in life.

[cupocity303]

ALennox beat Vitaly no if's or buts about it. He beat him, TKO'd him, busted his face up. Lennox Lewis won fair and square.

Why Klitschko fans try to diminish or take away from that win is beyond me.
OK, the rematch would of been great but it didn't happen, accepted that he lost to the better man that night and move on.

Fair and Square? Better man?

Hmm, but how was he better man when he was behind on the scorecards to Vitali?

IF the fight were allowed to continue, we don't know what would've happened, we can only speculate based on our biases in favor of one or the other fighter.

Sorry, but your last part (the closing statement) of the post was just a rigid fail.

[jrosales13]

Fair and Square? Better man?

Hmm, but how was he better man when he was behind on the scorecards to Vitali?

IF the fight were allowed to continue, we don't know what would've happened, we can only speculate based on our biases in favor of one or the other fighter.

Sorry, but your last part (the closing statement) of the post was just a rigid fail.

So when a fighter scores a come from behind stoppage victory it should not count cuz they were losing on the scorecards and we don't know what would of happen if it would of continued so it doesn't count?

WTF?

OK, man...You win Vitaly was the better man...He never lost he is undefeated....The ass whoopen that Lennox got that night send him to retirement.

[jrosales13]

Byrd schooled Prime Tua and Holyfield.

Lennox ducked Byrd. Steward said the slick southpaw Byrd would make Lennox look bad.

Wlad easily destroyed Byrd twice.

The thread is not about Wlad is about Vitaly. You do know they're 2 different guys right?

And, just FYI Vitaly quit against Byrd.

[cupocity303]

Hell I think prime George Foreman would have killed Vitali. Young foreman is why Ali's health deteriorated later on in life.

How would he have killed him? Can you be more specific.

Styles make fights. When it comes to the Klitscho's, we always hear the "What if the Klitschko's had fought a prime (Insert name here from the past era)".

But we never say what if someone like Foreman had fought anybody with the size and boxing skill of a Klitschko.

You brought up Foreman pounding Ali.....how is that relevant. Unless you mean to tell me that Wlad or Vitali would've Rope-A-Doped against the rope all night, letting Foreman punch them to the body.

No, the more likely scenerio would've been, a fight in the middle of the ring. Wlad/Vitali keeping Foreman at bay with their jab, BAMM!!! A one-two combo. Whenever Foreman managed to get in, they would hold......he couldn't pound them the way he did Ali, they never would've let him.

They would've leaned on him, all 250 and he would get even more tired than he did Africa that night.

[Steelhammer2011]

The thread is not about Wlad is about Vitaly. You do know they're 2 different guys right?

And, just FYI Vitaly quit against Byrd.

Vitali got a freak injury in the 2nd round and he still dominated Byrd.

One armed Vitali dominated Byrd.

[G-DOGS]

lmao at a tko on cuts being considered a legitimate win...yeah, Lennox must have been practicing his cut inducing punching techniques for weeks leading up to the fight...LOL!!!

[cupocity303]

So when a fighter scores a come from behind stoppage victory it should not count cuz they were losing on the scorecards and we don't know what would of happen if it would of continued so it doesn't count?

You do understand that the fight was stopped by the ref without Vitali's consent, do you? He protested and wanted to continue.

So when you say stoppage or TKO, it's not exactly the same as the countless opponents who quit on their stool and fail to come out for the next round, or the ref stoppage because a fighter is taking too much punishment. That's why when I say "Vitali was ahead on the scorecards" is relevant to the argument. The man who was ahead and was still in the fight, and willing to fight on, was prohibited to continue.

Lennox L. didn't stop ****, the ref did. Once you get that, then we can progress this convo.