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  • talz
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    #21
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Floyd was outboxing Shane about 20 seconds AFTER he was hurt badly by Shane's biggest punch that buckled his legs....Khan had to have the ref help him and run as well as hold on,turn his back on Maidana for the remaining 2 and a half ROUNDS!

    There is a major difference in class between these guys.
    But you fail to realise shane put everything into that assault and gassed out. He just never seemed to throw anything after that round. Lets not forget important part, that shane is was 39 years old.

    Originally posted by Roksan
    But Khan was facing a limited slugger. Roach said before the fight that Khan wouldn't lose a round. Roach also said before the fight that Khan was ready for Mayweather NOW!
    Not that limited he suprisingly had a decent jab, knew how to close the ring down, great chin and knockout power(27KOs from 29 fights).

    Oh and Khan doesn't duck anybody, assault women or poke bodyguards in the face!

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    • mani1
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      #22
      Originally posted by damned1974
      The similarity is there was controversy in both Floyd's fight and Khan's (would you wager your life savings that the ref did not have anything to do with the outcome-even on a decision????).

      The difference is, Floyd (who claimed to have had an injury in the first fight) had ended the controversy and gave Castillo an immediate rematch.

      You are "trigger happy" in glorifying one guy's career (Khan) over another without looking at the facts and instead choose to do this over opinion probably due to current popularity-a ridiculous way to use logic.
      Yes but Maidana lost ifs and buts dont mean nothing if Holyfield wasnt allowed to headbutt consistantly in both fights he would of lost.

      If the ref didnt let Hatton fight dirty against zoo hatton would of got KOed etc.
      If Alexander fought outside of USA against Kotelnik he would of lost by a clear UD.

      How many rematches were they in those instances.

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      • damned1974
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        #23
        Originally posted by charlier14
        khan never said he has better defence then floyd and at least he's trying to fight the best out there unlike mayweather
        You are right-NOBODY said Khan is better defensively, technically, or otherwise than Floyd,but you guys are trying to make it out that Khan has something over Floyd's career-which is just ******.

        You are trying to say that Khan (who was highly favoured to beat Maidana) is fighting the best,when he has yet to even fight the regarded best with Bradley. Floyd is a part time fighter these days-why even bother making the comparison....is it because he is frowned upon the mainstream these days? You may as well say that Khan is fighting better opposition than Roy Jones or Holyfield-because they are part time as well!

        The correct and more appropriate comparison should be to compare two fighters who are at the same stage of their careers,not one young guy who still has a lot to prove against a guy who is at the end of his career.

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          #24
          Originally posted by damned1974
          You also need to realize that Floyd and Khan are very different with styles.... Floyd has brilliant defense and is getting criticized by yourself for not taking too many shots....isn't the name of the game to hit and not be hit?

          To compare the stage of Floyd's career (he is at the tail end of his) with Khan (who still has a lot to prove and is early in his career) makes little to no sense.

          When Castillo gave Floyd hell,he immediately gave him a rematch-would Khan do the same for Maidana???
          First of all I'm not on the Khan express. Second I'm not comparing the two, Khan is not ready to fight a fighter with Floyds experience yet. You also took a small portion of my post.

          I'm just giving Khan credity for taking a very dangerous fight against a prime fighter at his best. How long has it been since Floyd really took a risky fight? He fought a badly war ridden Gatti that Osca punished years prior, an out of prime Oscar that could no longer pull the trigger who hadn't who's last big win was against Vargas, and yes Shane is no scrub but nowhere near the Shane of prime. Regardless if you agree or not, he retired at a very conveniant time when Pacquiao, Margarito, and Cotto were fighting one another and beating the hell out of each other.

          Regardless of what you think of thse fighters now, these were the fights the public was demanding at the time. Yes Floyd gave Castillo a rematch, because many people to this day feel Castillo won that fight, so he did for himslef not for Castillo. Khan flat out beat Maidana. It wasn't a disputed victory eventhough he didn't look good in the final rounds. He did enough to win, and that shouldn't be a knock on him but a credit to Maidana for coming back from the early knockdown. You don't win fight because you looked better in the final rounds and won all of about 4 rounds. Khan won the majority of the rounds and did what it took to win. I would like to see a rematch but if he moves on to fight the winner of Alexander vs. Bradley, and Maidana doesn't get a rematch so be it.

          As long he is consitantly fighting the fights the public want. I don't care what you or others may say, Floyd has not fought the best competition consistantly for a long time. I'll give you Corrales and Castillo, but how long ago was that?

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          • damned1974
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            #25
            Originally posted by mani1
            Yes but Maidana lost ifs and buts dont mean nothing if Holyfield wasnt allowed to headbutt consistantly in both fights he would of lost.

            If the ref didnt let Hatton fight dirty against zoo hatton would of got KOed etc.
            If Alexander fought outside of USA against Kotelnik he would of lost by a clear UD.

            How many rematches were they in those instances.
            That is why those fights would warrant rematches....thanks for noticing that.

            The difference is-Floyd gave the rematch,yet he didn't have to.

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            • FloydTBE
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              #26
              floyd would whoop khan

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              • Champ Is Here
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                #27
                Originally posted by KingTito
                While I believe Floyd would beat Khan, your example there doesn't matter. Who cares what Khan looked like? Look at Pacquiao after his fights. Is the difference between Mayweather and Pacquiao huge? No. Look at Ali after Frazier with his jaw destroyed. Does that mean Floyd is miles ahead of Ali? No. There's better ways to point out why Floyd is better than Khan. Khan would pose some problems, but I think Floyd beats him.
                You should watch the ALI before his case

                I guarantee if they boxed then, Ali face once again wouldnt have hardly any marks

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                • damned1974
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by jai mari078
                  First of all I'm not on the Khan express. Second I'm not comparing the two, Khan is not ready to fight a fighter with Floyds experience yet. You also took a small portion of my post.

                  I'm just giving Khan credity for taking a very dangerous fight against a prime fighter at his best. How long has it been since Floyd really took a risky fight? He fought a badly war ridden Gatti that Osca punished years prior, an out of prime Oscar that could no longer pull the trigger who hadn't who's last big win was against Vargas, and yes Shane is no scrub but nowhere near the Shane of prime. Regardless if you agree or not, he retired at a very conveniant time when Pacquiao, Margarito, and Cotto were fighting one another and beating the hell out of each other.

                  Regardless of what you think of thse fighters now, these were the fights the public was demanding at the time. Yes Floyd gave Castillo a rematch, because many people to this day feel Castillo won that fight, so he did for himslef not for Castillo. Khan flat out beat Maidana. It wasn't a disputed victory eventhough he didn't look good in the final rounds. He did enough to win, and that shouldn't be a knock on him but a credit to Maidana for coming back from the early knockdown. You don't win fight because you looked better in the final rounds and won all of about 4 rounds. Khan won the majority of the rounds and did what it took to win. I would like to see a rematch but if he moves on to fight the winner of Alexander vs. Bradley, and Maidana doesn't get a rematch so be it.

                  As long he is consitantly fighting the fights the public want. I don't care what you or others may say, Floyd has not fought the best competition consistantly for a long time. I'll give you Corrales and Castillo, but how long ago was that?
                  Ok-first off,the similarity with Maidana and Shane is-both only had puncher's chances-but I am pretty sure that Shane was ranked higher in his division (at the time of the Floyd fight) than Maidana was at his division (at the time of the Khan fight). Somehow it is Floyd's fault for Mosely gassing out as bad as he did-just seems weird to me that it should Floyd's fault instead of giving him credit.


                  Second off-Floyd's career is at a very different stage than Khan's...there really is no comparison.The things Floyd has achieved is vastly superior to Khan....When the Pacquiao/Floyd fight could not be made because of circumstances (another topic),then who did the public want to see????? That's right, Floyd fighting Shane-and it happened,so what is to complain about?

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                  • mani1
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by damned1974
                    That is why those fights would warrant rematches....thanks for noticing that.

                    The difference is-Floyd gave the rematch,yet he didn't have to.
                    Floyd was a different animal up to the second Castillo fight. After he picked an chose who he fought

                    I think the reason why Floyd gets more hate is because he makes his fights look easy and doesn't fight the best.

                    I my self feel he is wasting his talent.

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                      #30
                      i would pay to see khan vs floyd..

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