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  • jai mari078
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    #41
    Originally posted by damned1974
    Ok-first off,the similarity with Maidana and Shane is-both only had puncher's chances-but I am pretty sure that Shane was ranked higher in his division (at the time of the Floyd fight) than Maidana was at his division (at the time of the Khan fight). Somehow it is Floyd's fault for Mosely gassing out as bad as he did-just seems weird to me that it should Floyd's fault instead of giving him credit.


    Second off-Floyd's career is at a very different stage than Khan's...there really is no comparison.The things Floyd has achieved is vastly superior to Khan....When the Pacquiao/Floyd fight could not be made because of circumstances (another topic),then who did the public want to see????? That's right, Floyd fighting Shane-and it happened,so what is to complain about?
    MOSLEY WAS 39!!!!!! Also yes he is at a different stage at this point in his career, but his taking low threat fights didn't just start. he wasted a lot of years fiighting the Sarmba Mitchells, Henry Brusles, Gatti, Baldomir, Zab.

    I don't wanns hear Baldomir was a lineal champ when the public was screaming for Margarito. Baldomir won that title from beating a mentally weak Zab Judah who has never shown in up in a big fight and alwasy melts down. Yes he had all the talent in the world but if you don't have the mental capacity none of that matters. He had no business fighting Zab Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir. No one is comparing the two, I've already stated that Khan is not ready for a fight of that magnitude. The problem is he has been more interested in protecting hiS 0 for the majority iof his career rather than putting it to the test.

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    • sevenone
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      #42
      The idea that Kahn and co. think he deserves the 20 million dollar fight is crazy!
      Pacman or Khan Floyd beats em both and makes them look fundementaly poorly developed.

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      • FLYBOY
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        #43
        Without a doubt, the difference between Floyd and Amir is HEART. Amir has a huge heart. Floyd has a mini heart.

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        • DET. IRONSIDE
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          #44
          Originally posted by FLYBOY
          Without a doubt, the difference between Floyd and Amir is HEART. Amir has a huge heart. Floyd has a mini heart.
          Khan has a future to look forward to.

          Floyd has a legacy tolook back on and he's still hungry. Thats why he's having a mental crisis.

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          • damned1974
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            #45
            Originally posted by jai mari078
            MOSLEY WAS 39!!!!!! Also yes he is at a different stage at this point in his career, but his taking low threat fights didn't just start. he wasted a lot of years fiighting the Sarmba Mitchells, Henry Brusles, Gatti, Baldomir, Zab.

            I don't wanns hear Baldomir was a lineal champ when the public was screaming for Margarito. Baldomir won that title from beating a mentally weak Zab Judah who has never shown in up in a big fight and alwasy melts down. Yes he had all the talent in the world but if you don't have the mental capacity none of that matters. He had no business fighting Zab Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir. No one is comparing the two, I've already stated that Khan is not ready for a fight of that magnitude. The problem is he has been more interested in protecting hiS 0 for the majority iof his career rather than putting it to the test.
            You can apply your logic to a lot of fighters.....the Gatti fight made financial sense.Zab and Baldomir made sense with belts,etc...when have you seen the best fighting the best when it made financial sense while both fighters skills and peaks were at their best (in modern boxing)?

            I believe the public demanded the Shane fight since the Manny fight could not be made...just look at how even this forum was buzzing when the fight between Shane and Floyd was made-there really was no other fight that made sense at that time.It is easy to look back in hindsight and say who Floyd should have fought,but let's face it-his #1 priority is a fight that will make him the most money these days.

            Early in Floyd's career,just as any other fighter-he wanted the legacy,the belts,etc...he wants the money these days,but still has to give the public something that is demanded to warrant such a high ppv sell.To contrast Floyd's career with some guy who's career is just getting started after being ktfo 2 years ago (and nearly again by Limmond) is just silly.We can b1tch about this forever,but in the end-Maidana was accepted as an opponent after he looked like crump against Corley...remember all the problems making this fight BEFORE that Corley fight? Even as Khan's mandatory,Maidana had trouble getting Khan until that pitiful display against Chop-chop.

            Now the rumour has it that Khan wants to fight Zab Judah-many years AFTER Floyd (and countless others fought him and beat him).....yet somehow you think Khan is giving the public what we want to see....gimme a break! lol
            Last edited by damned1974; 12-14-2010, 09:58 PM.

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            • Johnwoo8686
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              #46
              Originally posted by jai mari078
              MOSLEY WAS 39!!!!!! Also yes he is at a different stage at this point in his career, but his taking low threat fights didn't just start. he wasted a lot of years fiighting the Sarmba Mitchells, Henry Brusles, Gatti, Baldomir, Zab.

              I don't wanns hear Baldomir was a lineal champ when the public was screaming for Margarito. Baldomir won that title from beating a mentally weak Zab Judah who has never shown in up in a big fight and alwasy melts down. Yes he had all the talent in the world but if you don't have the mental capacity none of that matters. He had no business fighting Zab Judah coming off a loss to Baldomir. No one is comparing the two, I've already stated that Khan is not ready for a fight of that magnitude. The problem is he has been more interested in protecting hiS 0 for the majority iof his career rather than putting it to the test.
              :*******:

              Yes but 39 year old Mosley was ranked higher in his division than 27 year old Maidana. Mosley pound for pound at 39 was ranked higher than Maidana. Mosley was coming off a win where he looked awesome while Maidana was coming off a win where he looked mediocre. So dont make it seem as if Kahns win over Maidana is better than Floyds over Mosley. The public wasnt sreaming for a fight with Margarito until after the De La Hoya fight. In fact Margs win over Cotto, which happened in 2008, was his biggest win and now its suspect because of the handwraps scandal.
              You also forget that there was huge demand for the Judah fight before he lost to Baldomir.

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              • Rolaz
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                #47
                So Floyd Jr always ends the fight with his face showing no damage at all!

                That's why he is called "Pretty Boy"!

                But, then he hasn't fought Boxer with great speed and punching power!

                What If he fights Pacman?

                All of Pacman's opponent with the exception of Clottey, ended up with bloody disfigured faces.

                Preserving the "0" seems to be the important factor of Floyd Jr!

                Hence, its too hard to make the Pacman-Floyd Jr fight to happen.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Rolaz
                  So Floyd Jr always ends the fight with his face showing no damage at all!

                  That's why he is called "Pretty Boy"!

                  But, then he hasn't fought Boxer with great speed and punching power!

                  What If he fights Pacman?

                  All of Pacman's opponent with the exception of Clottey, ended up with bloody disfigured faces.

                  Preserving the "0" seems to be the important factor of Floyd Jr!

                  Hence, its too hard to make the Pacman-Floyd Jr fight to happen.

                  That spart of the mix too but the Arum factr is much larger.

                  They will fight if its written. Even casuals want it now.

                  Maybe end of next year huh?

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                  • damned1974
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rolaz
                    So Floyd Jr always ends the fight with his face showing no damage at all!

                    That's why he is called "Pretty Boy"!

                    But, then he hasn't fought Boxer with great speed and punching power!

                    What If he fights Pacman?

                    All of Pacman's opponent with the exception of Clottey, ended up with bloody disfigured faces.

                    Preserving the "0" seems to be the important factor of Floyd Jr!

                    Hence, its too hard to make the Pacman-Floyd Jr fight to happen.
                    Sounds like a primate's sense of logic in your words....We know that Manny had everything he wanted in the first negotiations but he still wouldn't accept full testing.The second negotiations,he STILL wouldn't accept full testing and Arum hasn't even tried to negotiate with Floyd...in fact,Arum was chatting about having Shane as an opponent before the Margarito fight was finished (he hasn't mentioned Floyd half as much as the "honed in on" Shane Mosely,who looked like dirt against Floyd and SERGIO MORA!)- are you sure it is Floyd who lacks confidence,or is it Arum looking after his investment?????
                    Last edited by damned1974; 12-14-2010, 10:12 PM.

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                    • Drunk Punch
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                      #50
                      It's not that wide. Just different styles.
                      They both have world class speed and accuracy
                      But one is more experienced and fights defensively
                      And the other is more offence minded

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