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  • Kagami Taiga
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    #31
    normally, i wuld be annoyed with the constant comparisons between floyd and khan because khan is such a young fighter. however, its really khan's fault. he bought it on himself by talking as if he was better than he really was. the young guy is good and all. but he should never compare himeslf to floyd or manny.

    anyways, khan has yet to accomplish anything. sure maidana is good. but floyd has fought numerous fighters who are much better than he is. heck, everyone hes fought in his last 5 fights beat maidana regardless of their age.

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    • DET. IRONSIDE
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      #32
      We all know this talk is all snake oil for the casual fans and dumbos to swallow. Khan won't fight Mayweather next year. Its too big a fight too soon.

      Theres a lot to fix for 2011 and a lot to look at. Khan would probably have to go up to 147 and fight Berto before being considered to fight Mayweather. That can't happen before 2012 and I doubt if May is trying to lose weight to go clean up 140.

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      • damned1974
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        #33
        Originally posted by mani1
        Floyd was a different animal up to the second Castillo fight. After he picked an chose who he fought

        I think the reason why Floyd gets more hate is because he makes his fights look easy and doesn't fight the best.

        I my self feel he is wasting his talent.
        I agree with your last statement....I think Floyd retired in the prime of his career and left a lot of questions as opposed to definite answers.Floyd these days fights once a year,yet has been blamed for boxing's demise and negativity.... how one guy who fights once a year can do this is beyond me,but that tells you of the impact he has had in this sport.

        As for picking and choosing, most fighters do this-it is not right,but a few are doing this,and usually do this when they are at the stage in their own careers where they feel they have nothing to prove (or their careers are being "paved" and protected).Remember, Pacquiao is accused of this a lot (I accuse him of this myself).There is consistency in fighters-usually at the start of their career they call out the best fight that can challenge their skills and make them famous-then once they reach their own pinnacles (as Floyd and Manny have)-they just get "money fights"-not neccesarily the fights that are demanded or even warranted,but fights that they know can be low risk/high reward.
        Last edited by damned1974; 12-14-2010, 08:48 PM.

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          #34
          Originally posted by BALLISTIC
          i would pay to see khan vs floyd..
          would be a easy fight fr floyd

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          • mani1
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            #35
            Originally posted by damned1974
            I agree with your last statement....I think Floyd retired in the prime of his career and left a lot of questions as opposed to definite answers.Floyd these days fights once a year,yet has been blamed for boxing's demise and negativity.... how one guy who fights once a year can do this is beyond me,but that tells you of the impact he has in this sport.

            As for picking and choosing, most fighters do this-it is not right,but a few are doing this,and usually do this when they are at the stage in their own careers where they feel they have nothing to prove.Remember, Pacquiao is accused of this a lot (I accuse him of this myself).There is consistency in fighters-usually at the start of their career they call out the best fight that can challenge their skills and make them famous-then once they reach their own pinnacles (as Floyd and Manny have)-they just get "money fights"-not neccesarily the fights that are demanded or even warranted,but fights that they know can be low risk/high reward.
            I think the biggest thing that is allowing Guys like Floyd or Manny to pick and choose is PPV they can fight any named fighter once or twice a year in Mannys case and make a ridiculous amount of money.

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              #36
              Originally posted by damned1974
              I agree with your last statement....I think Floyd retired in the prime of his career and left a lot of questions as opposed to definite answers.Floyd these days fights once a year,yet has been blamed for boxing's demise and negativity.... how one guy who fights once a year can do this is beyond me,but that tells you of the impact he has had in this sport.
              Theres too many once a year fighters. Floyd should be spanked for going on vacation like he did.

              SPANKED!

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                #37
                Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE
                Theres too many once a year fighters. Floyd should be spanked for going on vacation like he did.

                SPANKED!
                If someone was to "scratch beneath the surface" of your words, there is a hidden compliment there-you are basically saying that Floyd is so skilled and great,that he should still be fighting multiple times a year.

                Hey,I agree-I wish Floyd fought several times a year,but we know the reality- they don't need to when they are making excessive and obscene amounts of money.There are "fan's fighters" and there are "strictly business" fighters....Manny and Floyd are business fighters who feel that they have nothing to prove other than popularity or making the biggest money over one another.

                If Floyd must fight once a year,eventually his next fight will have to be against Manny or against another public perceived tough challenge-otherwise he will have to officially retire.

                I thought the Shane fight was justified in taking due to Shane's ranking and his prior fight-he was the second best guy that Floyd could have fought....with Manny,there seems to be a lot more guys that he should have fought and were being asked for at the time.Nobody was asking for the Clottey fight,the Diaz fight, the Margarito fight, etc...even the Cotto fight was perhaps the 3rd best fight he could have gotten at the time (Floyd and Shane were more demanded for him to fight at the time as opposed to Cotto,who had a lot of questions where he was at after his beating).
                Last edited by damned1974; 12-14-2010, 09:05 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by damned1974
                  If someone was to "scratch beneath the surface" of your words, there is a hidden compliment there-you are basically saying that Floyd is so skilled and great,that he should still be fighting multiple times a year.
                  Love watching floyd fight bro.

                  Got ALL the fights on my hard drive.

                  Manny is getting ridden dry by Bob Arum.

                  No sweat.
                  Last edited by DET. IRONSIDE; 12-14-2010, 09:23 PM.

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                    #39
                    I didnt realise Mayweather and Maidana fought exactly the same.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by DET. IRONSIDE
                      Love watching floyd fight bro.

                      Got ALL the fights on my hard drive.

                      Manny is getting ridden dry by Bob Arum.

                      No sweat.
                      Floyd is amazing in the ring.People that don't understand subtleties and want to watch blatant or obvious fighting will probably never appreciate what he does in the ring.
                      People can b1tch and moan about his work-rate and his limited punch out-put,but the guy doesn't need to throw many when his accuracy is so high.

                      I agree and have recognized that Bob Arum has been "bleeding" Manny dry for his last several fights...which is why his last 3 have been in-house fights since he has been making the big money.This is why he will do business with Mosely-because he can keep the majority of the money and give Shane peanuts.
                      Even Arum knows that another in-house fight against regurgitated Top-Rank fighters will not do well financially for him since Manny has been asking for high guarantees (15 million min.).It is his way of making big money,while protecting Manny and earning himself a pretty penny.If he has to put Manny against Floyd,he will only get 50% at best for Manny instead of the much higher percent with these in-house fighters or fighters who won't ask for more than a very small percentage.When he is ready to let go of MAnny and they will comply with FULL drug testing,we may see the fight-but that's not even a guarantee-Floyd from the very beginning wanted Manny to be his own man and then Manny himself wouldn't have to shell out his large percentage to Arum.

                      Boxing is a very disturbing business with the worst of politics.The best only fight the best when it is financially justified,and half the time when it makes financial sense,it doesn't mean that both fighters are still prime, undefeated,etc
                      Last edited by damned1974; 12-14-2010, 09:40 PM.

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