PASCAL over HOPKINS!!!!!!?????

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  • Kball15
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    PASCAL over HOPKINS!!!!!!?????

    Most sportsbooks have Pascal as high as a 3 or 4-1 favorite.

    I think more correctly, bookmaker.com has him at -220

    I like that bet at those odds a lot.

    Hopkins' biggest wins in recent years have been against SLOW fighters that PLOD forward and allow hopkins to set his feet and then move constantly, keeping his opponent constantly off balance. Guys like Tarver and Pavlik and Wright. Guys that struggle with fighters who have quick feet.

    Hopkins' only losses in his career were against FAST, ATHLETIC, and (usually) BLACK fighters. i.e., the two fights against Taylor and the loss Jones Jr. like 20 years ago. Calzaghe being the only exception to the black part, but more then applies.

    Pascal is probably a bit better then Jermaine Taylor, although probably not by much.

    At the same time though, Hopkins has aged 5 years since those fights. He is 45 years old...

    I just find it very hard to see Hopkins, at this age and knowing his history against fighters like Pascal who fight in spurts and have fast hands, pulling this one out.

    I LOOOOOOOVE Pascal at -220. I think it hits for sure.

    Do I think Hopkins COULD win? I mean, he is one of the smartest fighters ever and his trainer Nazzim is probably the best strategist in the bizz sooo... yea. But Its hard to see for me
  • Kball15
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    #2
    booooomp nags

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    • theplayerpimp
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      #3
      Originally posted by Kball15
      booooomp nags
      i got pascal any one want to bet 20 k

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      • Tiozzo
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        #4
        I think this is a 50/50 fight on paper

        the fight being in Canada probably explains the odds

        Hopkins too big an underdog here

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        • Heru
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          #5
          Originally posted by theplayerpimp
          i got pascal any one want to bet 20 k
          20K it is.

          -220 on someone who has such a good chance to lose as Pascal does are terrible odds. Seriously, if Pascal wins it'll be by squeezing out a close decision. Hopkins will be on his ass right after he wastes his burst and wants to recover. He won't land many clean punches or outwork Hopkins either.

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          • Scott9945
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            #6
            I never give odds on anything. But one thing Pascal has going for him is that the fight is in his hometown and Hopkins can't KO him.

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            • freedom213
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              #7
              Originally posted by Kball15
              Most sportsbooks have Pascal as high as a 3 or 4-1 favorite.

              I think more correctly, bookmaker.com has him at -220

              I like that bet at those odds a lot.

              Hopkins' biggest wins in recent years have been against SLOW fighters that PLOD forward and allow hopkins to set his feet and then move constantly, keeping his opponent constantly off balance. Guys like Tarver and Pavlik and Wright. Guys that struggle with fighters who have quick feet.

              Hopkins' only losses in his career were against FAST, ATHLETIC, and (usually) BLACK fighters. i.e., the two fights against Taylor and the loss Jones Jr. like 20 years ago. Calzaghe being the only exception to the black part, but more then applies.

              Pascal is probably a bit better then Jermaine Taylor, although probably not by much.

              At the same time though, Hopkins has aged 5 years since those fights. He is 45 years old...

              I just find it very hard to see Hopkins, at this age and knowing his history against fighters like Pascal who fight in spurts and have fast hands, pulling this one out.

              I LOOOOOOOVE Pascal at -220. I think it hits for sure.

              Do I think Hopkins COULD win? I mean, he is one of the smartest fighters ever and his trainer Nazzim is probably the best strategist in the bizz sooo... yea. But Its hard to see for me

              I have to agree with you based on those fights and his recent performance he may be in for a rough night. But , and this is a big but, Pascal does make a lot of mistakes and I think his fight with Dawson showed that he is there for the taking especially against someone who will stand in there and counterpunch through his sloppy four punch combos.

              Other big questions that make me lean back toward Bhop:

              Which Hopkins shows up? the one against Pavlik, Calzaghe and Tarver or the version that fought Jones.

              How does Pascal deal with someone with the boxing ability of Hopkins? His fight against Dawson was way more about what Chad did not do then what Pascal did. Dawson looked lethargic and inactive as hell.

              The biggest issue is, to me besides the version of Hopkins we get is the fact that Pascal jumps in from too far outside alot. I think Hopkins will do what he always does and time him probably getting an early KD, maybe turning that momentum into a victory. Guess Im on the fence here.

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              • freedom213
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                #8
                Originally posted by Scott9945
                I never give odds on anything. But one thing Pascal has going for him is that the fight is in his hometown and Hopkins can't KO him.

                thats two things....

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                • King Koopa
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                  #9
                  Pascal is gonna win, it won't be as competitive as you think...

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                  • starkiller
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                    #10
                    Is Hopkins throwing this fight? Why the odds have him so low when Pascal fights like a ****tier version of Roy Jones Jr.? I wonder how many uppercuts Bhop will land on Pascal. Pascal is a lame ass boxer who tries to emulate Roy Jones Jr. instead of having his own style.

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