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[moochi]

i still don't understand you YANKS.....you always keep Bernard Hopkins in the list, yet you don't include Tszyu.........Hopkins and Tszyu both lost their long term domination of their respective divisions......

so what is the reason for this? is it because you guys support your own so much, and once a foreigner loses 1 bout, that you just spirt him out...

shame on you YANKS.

[Dirt E Gomez]

i still don't understand you YANKS.....you always keep Bernard Hopkins in the list, yet you don't include Tszyu.........Hopkins and Tszyu both lost their long term domination of their respective divisions......

so what is the reason for this? is it because you guys support your own so much, and once a foreigner loses 1 bout, that you just spirt him out...

shame on you YANKS.

Pfffft. Hopkins held the belts for much longer, and then he lost the belts in a very close decision which could have gone either way for him. Tszyu was tko'd and was soundly being beaten in the bout.

[moochi]

Pfffft. Hopkins held the belts for much longer, and then he lost the belts in a very close decision which could have gone either way for him. Tszyu was tko'd and was soundly being beaten in the bout.

wrong bro......hopkins was soundly beaten........no doubt about it and he lost to himself....

tszyu was beaten in, too many many, controversial circumstances.....

...and hopkins did not hold the belts for "much longer"....wrong again.....tszyu was world champion before hopkins was, when he challenged the champion in Jan 05.......

hopkins got his first title at his third shot after challenging the same opponent for the "vacant title" twice....the first challenge he was taken out by jones jr in 93, and then he fought mercado for the vacant title twice (as the first fight was a draw)...

hopkins first unified belts in 2001....and in my opinion, fought lowly ranked opposition ever since.....

tszyu in my opinion, is a legend and if he were american, you guys would be nuthugging him as much as you do the other yanks.....

no offence, but it is true about you guys discarding foreigners...

[Dirt E Gomez]

He was beaten soundly in a mixed decision with a lot of people having mixed views? Wow, you're brilliant.

Hopkins won his first belt 2 years before Tsyzu, and held all of his titles up until his most recent bout, while Tszyu had lost the belts in an earlier fight, and even lost to Hatton several months before Hopkins lost to Taylor. Hopkins went on (post RJJ) to defend his titles 26 times in a row. Tszyu held onto his titles (post Phillips) 13 times.

Tszyu will have a harder time getting into the hall of fame if he doesn't have another meaningful win in my opinion.

[moochi]

He was beaten soundly in a mixed decision with a lot of people having mixed views? Wow, you're brilliant.

Hopkins won his first belt 2 years before Tsyzu, and held all of his titles up until his most recent bout, while Tszyu had lost the belts in an earlier fight, and even lost to Hatton several months before Hopkins lost to Taylor. Hopkins went on (post RJJ) to defend his titles 26 times in a row. Tszyu held onto his titles (post Phillips) 13 times.

Tszyu will have a harder time getting into the hall of fame if he doesn't have another meaningful win in my opinion.

bro you are wrong again.....tszyu didn't lose his other belts in an earlier fight, but rather whilst he was injured............keep in mind that tszyu destroyed 2 highly regarded and possible future hall of famers on his way to unifying the division....

when i talk about titles, i talk about world titles mate, not usba titles ok......so yes hopkins, in winning the usba title won his first title before tszyu..lol

like i said, hopkins won his first title (of course i mean world title) at his third attempt........and that was a vacant title..keep that in mind...and he only unified the division in 2001.....

tszyu defended less due to injuries, but tszyu's opposition is and was superior in comparison to hopkins'.........we all know this.....hopkins has a few good wins, and many wins over lightly regarded opponents.......

most of tszyu's opponents were world champions, former world champions, future world champions, or very highly regarded opponents.....

[- Evil -]

bro you are wrong again.....tszyu didn't lose his other belts in an earlier fight, but rather whilst he was injured............keep in mind that tszyu destroyed 2 highly regarded and possible future hall of famers on his way to unifying the division....

when i talk about titles, i talk about world titles mate, not usba titles ok......so yes hopkins, in winning the usba title won his first title before tszyu..lol

like i said, hopkins won his first title (of course i mean world title) at his third attempt........and that was a vacant title..keep that in mind...and he only unified the division in 2001.....

tszyu defended less due to injuries, but tszyu's opposition is and was superior in comparison to hopkins'.........we all know this.....hopkins has a few good wins, and many wins over lightly regarded opponents.......

most of tszyu's opponents were world champions, former world champions, future world champions, or very highly regarded opponents.....

Very good post.