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  • lildee2020
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    #21
    Yea you can tell he had alot of training with pac, his technique is rubbing off but khans stamina doesnt nearly compare. He definitely put up a pretty impressive fight but I think he might wanna take floyd off of his "to do" list. He showed alot of weaknesses that floyd would take advantage of and then... Lights out buddy!

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    • TRAV1$
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      #22
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      And despite showing amazing heart, Khan would certainly have been stopped if Maidana hadn't run out of gas in the last three rounds. Despite that, Khan barely landed a solid punch in those rounds, he just ran.
      And he wouldn't have gassed as early if Khan hadn't rained shots on him in the rounds he won
      Those body shots were a big part of Maidana slowing down
      So yeah it wasn't down to Maidana gassing, it was down to his opponent.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #23
        Originally posted by TRAV1$
        But I'm not talking about that
        I'm talking about the two official 114-111 scores.
        You obviously didn't read the first two paragraphs of my post, which were about exactly that point.

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        • TRAV1$
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          #24
          Originally posted by Dave Rado
          You obviously didn't read the first two paragraphs of my post, which were about exactly that point.
          The rounds were clear IMO
          I had it 114-111 to.

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          • Dave Rado
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            #25
            Originally posted by TRAV1$
            The rounds were clear IMO
            I had it 114-111 to.
            I had it 113-112, and there were certainly some very close rounds that could validly have been scored either way. HBO also had it 113-112. And if it hadn't been for the harsh point deduction, I and HBO and one of the judges would have scored it draw.

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            • JakeNDaBox
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              #26
              Originally posted by TRAV1$
              But I'm not talking about that
              I'm talking about the two official 114-111 scores.
              Oh for goodness sakes...

              I changed "narrow" to "close." Happy now?!

              I agree with 114-111, 7-5 in terms of rounds. I thought the point deduction was bogus (when it didn't even appear to hit Khan) and that Cortez needs to be put in a home.

              Dude has long been past it and in fact I find his HOF inclusion almost as disgraceful as that of Stallone. I honestly can't think of a single fight where Cortez displayed himself as one of the best in the business, never mind as HOF-worthy.

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              • JakeNDaBox
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                #27
                One note... I found it particularly classy of Golden Boy and HBO to honor Henrietta King with a ten count.

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                • TRAV1$
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by JakeNDaBox
                  Oh for goodness sakes...

                  I changed "narrow" to "close." Happy now?!

                  I agree with 114-111, 7-5 in terms of rounds. I thought the point deduction was bogus (when it didn't even appear to hit Khan) and that Cortez needs to be put in a home.

                  Dude has long been past it and in fact I find his HOF inclusion almost as disgraceful as that of Stallone. I honestly can't think of a single fight where Cortez displayed himself as one of the best in the business, never mind as HOF-worthy.
                  Totally agree
                  Cortez looks like he has got away with another poor display
                  The point deduction was unusual, not totally sure how it should have gone though
                  He was so inconsistent with the clinches, he'd let Maidana hold with one arm and land about 4 punches the back and side of Khans head... othertimes he'd break them up straight away and warn about the shots thrown.

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                  • 1/2FireH20
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                    #29
                    I'm not a hater, but someting is fishy

                    I saw the fight last night with Khan and Maidana and something struck me as very odd. Khan was getting hit with BOMBS by Maidana and was just shrugging them off as nothing. He was dazed a few times but still he was spry and moving around delivering combo's when he wanted in the 11th and 12th rounds. He reminded me of Pacq when he was fighting Cotto. Then something dawned on me.... What is the common factor between Pacq and Khan; both were guys who have been down before, Khan 3 times prior, and Pacq a few times himself, and now they can not be taken off of their feet by some of the hardest punchers landing the flushes shots. This isn't Mosley who has never been knocked down; these are guys who have been down before.

                    One common thing is Roach, and while a trainer can make your shots harder, make you faster, stronger, throw straighter and truer, he can't make your chin any stiffer, either you can take a hit on the jaw or you can't. Now I know there are certain on the button shots that will knock any man out but there are also accumulative shots that will also chop a tree down and Maidana was landing those on Khan last night, and he was just smiling at the end of the 10th.

                    That made me think of the second thing that they have in common and that is strength and conditioning coach in Ariza. Now I know many people will shoot me down and call me a hater, a racist, a ******, and what not, but I believe that Ariza is juicy them guys with something that lets them shrug off damage. Khan's face was damaged and he still was acting like he wasn't fazed, slugging at the final bell, Pacq said his ear drum was busted at the end of the Cotto fight and still he was swinging away with no signs of damage, Clottey hit pacq with crushing uppercuts (infrequently though) and still he came, Margs battle for a few rounds and pacq was unfazed. Maidana was landing Bombs on Khan and he was looking as fresh as round one throughout the fight.

                    Their ability to walk through fire and come out like they had a Halo energy shield is just too fishy for me. Both these guys defense is not that great, Khan was getting hit with too many power shots, but why should he care, he could have had his hands down the whole fight if he knew that he would not feel any of the punches and that he would never go down. Now people will be like, "tell me what he is taking then, what could it possibly be..." remember "the clear" was unheard and unthought-of of until it was exposed and studied. Ariza may have the next enhancer that either allows you to ignore pain or helps with equilibrium and balance so that stuff that would normally knock you off, won't know. It could do something to your inner ear fluid to help avoid sea sickness and such.

                    You may laugh but if Khan and Pacq keep fighting and never look hurt or go down, you will remember this post. Especially for two guys that have been down before and have not improved their defense one bit.

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                    • JakeNDaBox
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                      #30
                      For some reason, I always get the sense that Cortez just enjoys repeating the word "limpia" (clean). He says it as the first sign of even a hint of a clinch, body shots that are barely beltline, never mind being mistaken for low, whenever the fighters fight on the inside... I guess just his way of thrusting himself into the action and becoming part of the story.

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