Is JMM really the most technical fighter in the sport?

[Walt Liquor]

yet he loses to a basic 1-2 guy like Taylor......TWICE.

first fight was a toss up, I had bhop winning. i'm quite sure you're not saying bhop isn't a great technician though

regardless, it's be a hard fight to convince me that there is a fighter out there more technically sound than gnop.

for the guy who cries with floyd, technically gifted is not a real term. floyd is a great technician, don't shi t on his technique by calling him gifted. he may not be as technically sound as bhop as far as the basics go, but as far as being a ring mechanic who can adjust his style to his opponents style, whatever it may be, he is as good as anyone else out there as far as we know.

[Walt Liquor]

are u kidding me?.....Floyd schooled him when they fought....!!

has nothing to do with jmm being out of his weight class (too heavy), slow, and too small i'm sure

[Eaner0919]

first fight was a toss up, I had bhop winning. i'm quite sure you're not saying bhop isn't a great technician though

regardless, it's be a hard fight to convince me that there is a fighter out there more technically sound than gnop.

for the guy who cries with floyd, technically gifted is not a real term. floyd is a great technician, don't shi t on his technique by calling him gifted. he may not be as technically sound as bhop as far as the basics go, but as far as being a ring mechanic who can adjust his style to his opponents style, whatever it may be, he is as good as anyone else out there as far as we know.

of course not BHop is as sound as they get but what dillweed was driving was that if calderon was so technical then no way should he lose to Segura. I was merely pointing out that sometimes really proficient fighters have issues with less than techinical geniuses

hell JMM had issue with Diaz before he got him out of there

[boxinghero]

The best piss drinker P4P

I don't remember him as anything, but a good piss drinker.

[brick wall]

not true, bernard is as technically sound as any fighter today. he is a robot in training and in the ring, he fouls and uses roughhouse tactics more than jmm, but noone is more technically sound. jmm is on par with bhop.

good stuff starts around one minute, but its just a media workout

well my observations are based on what i saw in their actual fights. maybe they are at par but definitely i saw more technical skills from jmm's game. maybe bhop was busy with his little dirty tactics rather than use his full technical arsenal. that or you consider those tactics as part of the technical aspect of boxing.

[Walt Liquor]

of course not BHop is as sound as they get but what dillweed was driving was that if calderon was so technical then no way should he lose to Segura. I was merely pointing out that sometimes really proficient fighters have issues with less than techinical geniuses

hell JMM had issue with Diaz before he got him out of there

agreed, technical doesn't mean you're gonna spank everyone, lol! I forget to look at who you're responding to sometimes.

jmm has issue with kats as well, who's not the toughest puzzle in the sports.

i think there are guys like caldy, bhop, floyd, jmm that are a level above.

montiel is also an excellent technical fighter (wlad too) and so WAS mijares.

[Walt Liquor]

well my observations are based on what i saw in their actual fights. maybe they are at par but definitely i saw more technical skills from jmm's game. maybe bhop was busy with his little dirty tactics rather than use his full technical arsenal. that or you consider those tactics as part of the technical aspect of boxing.

don't let the roughhouse tactics distract you from things like balance, footwork, distance, timing, and defense. that's technical skills, not just counterpunching and combos (which bhop does well in spots- see the pavlik fight).

i would say that bhop's win vs trinidad was as good of a techincal display of boxing ability in an actual fight as jmm's vs anyone, including his draw and L vs manny, all things considered.

im not saying jmm is not a hof fighter and a master technician. I'm saying he's not a better technician than bhop, they each have their strengths and weaknesses and are pretty much on par with each other. no one can *** with bhop's footwork and balance. he looks like he sitting in a chair when he moves around the ring, he never changes his body position.

on top of that, bhop is better at starting exchanges as the aggressor. much better, jmm is a better counterpuncher.

[bigcursedawg]

Anyone who drinks their own piss during training isnt a technical fighter PERIOD.

how would that have anything to do with his technique in the ring. that puro haterism. this is only thing *******s have to say about marquez. don't get me wrong i think its a weird thing to do and i sure as hell wouldn't try it but it has absolutely nothing to do with the skill he has. marquez is a great fighter even at the age of 38 and i cant think of many boxers that can still compete at level he does considering his age, especially fighting pepole 10 to 7 years younger than him. i would prefer to see him retire while he's on top because its a shame when great fighters keep fighting and really get hurt at the end of their careers.

[Easy-E]

Currently active: Mayweather, Hopkins.

JMM is the most cerebral and technical brawler in the game, but he often gets caught with shots he shouldnt, and lets his pride get in the way of his technical game. You never see Hopkins or Floyd doing that.

[Easy-E]

Martinez is another pretty good example of a technical brawler thought he gets away with some things as a southpaw.