Floyd Mayweather Sr: "Take the tests and you got a fight, It's that simple"

[sweetscience18]

Of course not. Pinoy's can watch Pacquiao hit mitt's and a heavy bag to prove his greatness, right?

Might as well, his opponents are about as live as mitts and a bag

Freddie roach in that body protector looks like prime welterweights clottey n tony..they should fight at a catchweight, to make it fair..

[crillz]

because he didn't even try to make the contracted weight in his previous fight. duh? why did you type all that for such an easy answer?

floyd broke an agreement for a catchweight, which is a fact.

manny using ped's is not a fact.

lol at you using Rustico Torrecampo????? LOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!! sure, it's the same thing crillz..thanks for the laugh

lolz at you acting like just because it was such a long time ago he shouldn't be called out on it.

your attention span is so low that you require short answers? too bad, don't fucking reply to me then

Manny has in the past also broken an agreement for a catch weight, which is fact. he agreed to a 111lb's against Torrecampo and not only did he come in overweight but he had on bigger sized gloves than his opponent and STILL got knocked out

Manny using PED's is not a fact but it's also not a lie, the possibility exists very much so just ask Victor Conte about it. Alex Rodriguez is the Pacquiao of Baseball but even he used enhancement drugs, Pacquiao is no exception to the possibility, a possibility that Random testing will eliminate

but wait though, you mean to tell me Manny shouldn't be called out on him breaking his catch weight agreement with Torrecampo? isn't it the very same thing Floyd did with Marquez? the only difference is one was recent and one was back then but it's still the same offense, still the same wrong done and if Manny will cling on to the fact that Floyd has come in overweigt in the past then so should Mayweather about Manny

If you want to get technical the fight with Manny and Floyd would have taken place at 147lb's anyway, it's the weight Manny asked for, Floyd weighed in at 146 against Marquez which was 2lb's over the catch weight but 1lb short of Welterweight, he showed no signs of NOT being able to make Welterweight, he's never had a problem with 147lb's in the past so the demand of 10,000,000$ was useless and Floyd even agreed to it without hesitation

stop looking for little nooks and crevices to defend Manny's bullshit

[Owlzfan84]

lolz at you acting like just because it was such a long time ago he shouldn't be called out on it.

your attention span is so low that you require short answers? too bad, don't fucking reply to me then

Manny has in the past also broken an agreement for a catch weight, which is fact. he agreed to a 111lb's against Torrecampo and not only did he come in overweight but he had on bigger sized gloves than his opponent and STILL got knocked out

Manny using PED's is not a fact but it's also not a lie, the possibility exists very much so just ask Victor Conte about it. Alex Rodriguez is the Pacquiao of Baseball but even he used enhancement drugs, Pacquiao is no exception to the possibility, a possibility that Random testing will eliminate

but wait though, you mean to tell me Manny shouldn't be called out on him breaking his catch weight agreement with Torrecampo? isn't it the very same thing Floyd did with Marquez? the only difference is one was recent and one was back then but it's still the same offense, still the same wrong done and if Manny will cling on to the fact that Floyd has come in overweigt in the past then so should Mayweather about Manny

If you want to get technical the fight with Manny and Floyd would have taken place at 147lb's anyway, it's the weight Manny asked for, Floyd weighed in at 146 against Marquez which was 2lb's over the catch weight but 1lb short of Welterweight, he showed no signs of NOT being able to make Welterweight, he's never had a problem with 147lb's in the past so the demand of 10,000,000$ was useless and Floyd even agreed to it without hesitation

stop looking for little nooks and crevices to defend Manny's bullshit

You know thats a disadvantage right?

[fcastro1]

For his legacy he certainly does. All fighters need each other. They need each other to make money and to create greatness. In all honestly, Manny has not had an impressive win in the last 5 years. If you call getting outboxed by Marquez, knocking him down 4 times, and STILL winning what is a famed debatable decision and a bunch of nobodies who outweigh him, "a cemented legacy" then you are wrong.

As a matter of fact, beating Floyd is the only way anybody can convince me that Pacquiao is a bonafide ATG.

He hasn't fought any top contenders at 135 (only David Diaz), nor did he fight the top guys at 140 (only Ricky Hatton). Those are pretty good deep divisions, yet Pacquiao took the easy belts and moved on.

Greatness is made by fighting GOOD fights.

Take a page from Joe Frazier, fighting the who's who, putting on shows that will be remembered forever like THE FIGHT OF THE CENTURY and THRILLA IN MANILLA.

What do we get from Pacquiao? "The event" vs Joshua "who the **** is this?" Clottey?

Get real guys. You want to tell yourself that Pacquiao doesn't need Floyd but that is the furthest thing from the truth.

Why do you think people want this fight so bad? Floyd's greatness is well known throughout most boxing analysts, as most of them pick Floyd to win, as do most retired boxers (Oscar DLH, Shane Mosley, Fernando Vargas, etc). The only people saying Pac doesn't need Floyd are his nuthugging fans, and you are only hurting his legacy, because whether or not he is your favorite fighter, HE DOES NEED TO FIGHT GOOD FIGHTERS. Pinoys are the only people who are OK with him fighting washed up tailor made come forward flat footed bums. Nobody else is.

He needs Floyd to prove his greatness, and that is why everybody is calling for this fight. They want to see that Manny is the real deal. They want him to be tested.

If Roach and Arum believed he could beat Floyd, we would have had a fight, trust me we would.

His trainer and promoter don't believe he can beat Floyd, why do you have to?

Manny doesn't need Floyd is a ridiculous statement. They need each other, and the sport needs it.

Thats like saying Ali didn't need Frazier. Tyson didn't need Holyfiled. Holyfield didn't need Bowe, etc. Yet those are all ATG fights that will be remembered forever, and trust me, nobody is going to look back at the fights with Manny as ATG fights.

who has done what pac has done from flyweight to welterweight. I think u need to stfu with that bullshyt. Floyd needs pac more for his legacy.

[crillz]

You know thats a disadvantage right?

yes I know but it's still something that goes against the agreed upon stipulations, just because it's a disadvantage to him doesn't make it something that he could or should do. my point is that he is guilty of the same actions that Floyd is guilty of and Floyd payed his debts for that

[fcastro1]

For his legacy he certainly does. All fighters need each other. They need each other to make money and to create greatness. In all honestly, Manny has not had an impressive win in the last 5 years. If you call getting outboxed by Marquez, knocking him down 4 times, and STILL winning what is a famed debatable decision and a bunch of nobodies who outweigh him, "a cemented legacy" then you are wrong.

As a matter of fact, beating Floyd is the only way anybody can convince me that Pacquiao is a bonafide ATG.

He hasn't fought any top contenders at 135 (only David Diaz), nor did he fight the top guys at 140 (only Ricky Hatton). Those are pretty good deep divisions, yet Pacquiao took the easy belts and moved on.

Greatness is made by fighting GOOD fights.

Take a page from Joe Frazier, fighting the who's who, putting on shows that will be remembered forever like THE FIGHT OF THE CENTURY and THRILLA IN MANILLA.

What do we get from Pacquiao? "The event" vs Joshua "who the **** is this?" Clottey?

Get real guys. You want to tell yourself that Pacquiao doesn't need Floyd but that is the furthest thing from the truth.

Why do you think people want this fight so bad? Floyd's greatness is well known throughout most boxing analysts, as most of them pick Floyd to win, as do most retired boxers (Oscar DLH, Shane Mosley, Fernando Vargas, etc). The only people saying Pac doesn't need Floyd are his nuthugging fans, and you are only hurting his legacy, because whether or not he is your favorite fighter, HE DOES NEED TO FIGHT GOOD FIGHTERS. Pinoys are the only people who are OK with him fighting washed up tailor made come forward flat footed bums. Nobody else is.

He needs Floyd to prove his greatness, and that is why everybody is calling for this fight. They want to see that Manny is the real deal. They want him to be tested.

If Roach and Arum believed he could beat Floyd, we would have had a fight, trust me we would.

His trainer and promoter don't believe he can beat Floyd, why do you have to?

Manny doesn't need Floyd is a ridiculous statement. They need each other, and the sport needs it.

Thats like saying Ali didn't need Frazier. Tyson didn't need Holyfiled. Holyfield didn't need Bowe, etc. Yet those are all ATG fights that will be remembered forever, and trust me, nobody is going to look back at the fights with Manny as ATG fights.

and btw no one cares if you dont think pac is an all tim great. Because the people that matter do.

[fcastro1]

and when have you EVER heard of a penalty of 10,000,000$ for each pound overweight? when have you ever? and don't give me that shit about how "Manny can do that because Floyd has come in overweight in the past" when Manny has done that too, he did it against Rustico Torrecampo and even had on bigger gloves and got off with that shit, but oh yeah I forgot Manny can do things and others can't do it back, you're either his bitch or you can't fight him. it's okay for him to call out Floyd on coming in overweight but we should forget about the times he came in overweight though right? get fuck outta here with that bullshit

look how ****** your logic is. Pac was weight drained when he couldnt make the flyweight limit and got kod, Floyd just couldnt be bothered against a natural lightweight. If you think thats the same then you are a moron.

[V.WEBB]

yes I know but it's still something that goes against the agreed upon stipulations, just because it's a disadvantage to him doesn't make it something that he could or should do. my point is that he is guilty of the same actions that Floyd is guilty of and Floyd payed his debts for that

Good post Crilz. Obviously, when they do the SAME thing, we can only take one of them to task for it on this website.

[Gino Ros]

and btw no one cares if you dont think pac is an all tim great. Because the people that matter do.

who is that?

[Chups]

who is that?

Pinoys like us?