Comments Thread For: DiBella on Cotto-Martinez Failure, Rips Margarito Rematch

[Check_hooks]

Why should Arum co-promote with Dibella who is a joke of a promoter? Cotto-Margarito will make more than all of Dibellas fights in a year put together. Get Martinez to fight someone at 160, quit making little fighters jump up to fight your no name ass

[ThePrince]

martinez is sooooooooooooooo easy to sell to the public. he's a gentleman. doesn't beat women. polite. handsome. exciting style. great skills. etc... his only drawback is he can't speak a lick of english. the fact that dibella can't sell this guy to the general public is criminal negligence.

Really is.

But the language barrier isn't that big of a deal IMO. Both Pac and Cotto's English is limited. Plus Berto speaks English and is a marketable fighter but he's with Dibella so you know how that goes.

Arum and King need to hold a master class in promotions and invite guys like Goosen, Dibella, etc to learn how to build up fighters and turn them into draws. Guys are amateurs looking to leech off of other's investment and work. If they brought something to the table, then I'm sure co-promoting would be more attractive and viable to a businessman like Arum.

[Russian Crushin]

martinez is sooooooooooooooo easy to sell to the public. he's a gentleman. doesn't beat women. polite. handsome. exciting style. great skills. etc... his only drawback is he can't speak a lick of english. the fact that dibella can't sell this guy to the general public is criminal negligence.

He just came out this Year and fought nobodies his whole career, is 35 and doesnt speak english. Last year at this time, there was not 1 fan of Martinez on this board and he went up about 3000 spots in the Ring Yearly rankings from last year.

Who could sell this guy to the public that quick?

[Check_hooks]

Cotto-Margarito = big money

Pacquiao-Mosley = big money

Chavez jr -Angulo = big money

Pacquiao-winner of Cotto/Margarito = big money

Bob Arum knows exactly what hes doing and thats making money for his fighters and him.

Haters gonna hate tho lmao.

[theplayerpimp]

Yup. I think that Arum's disinterest in co-promotions does hurt the sport some BUT I do understand his position. It's not a coincidence that he's personally built up some of the biggest draws in the sport from the ground up (Oscar, Floyd, Manny, etc) and been involved in the biggest events ever. He puts a lot of $ and effort into turning his fighters into mainstream draws and revenue generators. I'd be apprehensive about sharing the pot with a 'promoter' who does nothing beyond booking open dates that were handed down to him by HBO.

I mean Martinez is the lineal MW champion and has movie star looks, a guy like that in Arum's hands would be a huge draw at this point in his career, but under Dibella, no one outside of hardcore fans has any clue who he is. So Arum has a choice of matching up Cotto fighters he turned into stars, whose first fight did 500K PPV and both of them are bigger and more recognizable now... or share the pot with a glorified HBO bookercan't even promote a talent like Martinez... sort of an easy decision from his vantage point.

Well to be fair lou didnt have martinez since the beggining of his career like arum had cotto. That is why arum is able to make stars bc he signs the best
prospect with potential like benavidez korobov lopez and many more bc he is able to beat any other offers from small promoters like lou or shaw. And lou has done a great job with martinez considering he got him so late in his career.

[Russian Crushin]

Really is.

But the language barrier isn't that big of a deal IMO. Both Pac and Cotto's English is limited. Plus Berto speaks English and is a marketable fighter but he's with Dibella so you know how that goes.

Arum and King need to hold a master class in promotions and invite guys like Goosen, Dibella, etc to learn how to build up fighters and turn them into draws. Guys are amateurs looking to leech off of other's investment and work. If they brought something to the table, then I'm sure co-promoting would be more attractive and viable to a businessman like Arum.

Its like you accept and respect the fact that Arum wont co-promote the best fights out there.

You cant turn a guy like Martinez into a Cotto-type draw after only what 9 months of success at the top level and like 12 years of fighting nothing but bums

[Pullcounter]

Well arum does work for cotto. If cotto really wanted the fight it would get done. And like the article says that arum has said that it was cotto himself that told him that they didnt want to do a split in the money like most fights are done.

why should cotto split the money with martinez? martinez/pwill sold around 5,000 seats. cotto fought the rabbi and did huge numbers.

Instead they wanted to give martinez a set fee which isnt fair considering it would land in ppv plus the site fee tickects and all the other stuff involved. Doesnt that sound even a little messed up considering hes the champ?

considering martinez is the champ, I agree, it's ****ed up. but beggars can't be choosers.

[Russian Crushin]

Cotto-Margarito = big money

Pacquiao-Mosley = big money

Chavez jr -Angulo = big money

Pacquiao-winner of Cotto/Margarito = big money

Bob Arum knows exactly what hes doing and thats making money for his fighters and him.

Haters gonna hate tho lmao.

Thats completely ridiculous

You care about how much money ARUM makes and not the best fights out there

Dont call yourself a boxing fan....go to Floyds side if you like money so much

[Pullcounter]

He just came out this Year and fought nobodies his whole career, is 35 and doesnt speak english. Last year at this time, there was not 1 fan of Martinez on this board and he went up about 3000 spots in the Ring Yearly rankings from last year.

Who could sell this guy to the public that quick?

martinez wasn't just around this year. i forget what fight it was, but the first time I saw him fight on hbo, i knew he had star quality. must've been 2-4 years ago.

[Russian Crushin]

why should cotto split the money with martinez? martinez/pwill sold around 5,000 seats. cotto fought the rabbi and did huge numbers.


considering martinez is the champ, I agree, it's ****ed up. but beggars can't be choosers.

Cmon Pull you cant be serious

You are supporting Arums greed? Cotto fought Foreman who never even came close to a main event and had no fans in his previous fights but he still fought him.

Yes, Arum has a gold mine by recycling his fighters 3 or 4 times but you cant seriously want to see that more then a fight against Martinez