7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

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  • tredh
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    #21
    Originally posted by guru
    i am a pro wrestler and trainer. IMO, steroids and HGH should be allowed in pro sports. i dont consider it cheating. i consider it a supplement like creatine. its just a very powerful supplement.
    The bold is crazy. If the results a person seeks can't be obtained normally and they use something to get them than that is not fair. I mean some things aren't meant to be performed by the human body. I'm but that is cheating. Well maybe they should form 2 leagues for all sports those who don't use steroids and those that do use steroids.
    Last edited by tredh; 12-07-2010, 02:44 PM.

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    • Frank Ducketts
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      #22
      If Bonds can hit 80 home runs, than a boxer can kill another boxer with PED's in his system.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #23
        Originally posted by guru
        i just view it as a supplement like creatine, pro hormones, testerone boosters or anything else you can get at GNC. Its more powerful, but you still gotta train, practice and work hard to be benefit from it.

        To me, it would be cheating if you just took it and didnt have to do anything else, no training or nothing, and it made you better.
        I was referring to its side effects. And long-term effects.

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        • BattlingNelson
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          #24
          A 7 day window is better than nothing I guess.

          Still EPO and later derivates will still improve stamina so a 7 day window is by no means equivalent of a clean sport. Year-round random testing is the only way if the powers that be wants a level near-guaranteed playing-field.

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          • brick wall
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            #25
            Originally posted by guru
            im saying if floyd wants to make sure pac doesnt need cheat at all, he will need year round testing.

            BUT if floyd just wants to make sure he doesnt cheat in the months coming into the fight then take the 7 day cut off, cuz no steroid can be taken in that window that will make a difference.

            in my view, i'm all for using steroids and hgh. you still have to put in the hard work, it just helps, doesnt do it for you.
            that's pretty obvious. floyd did not offer a 14-day cut-off for nothing. and it was not his idea either...he was advised by usada & tygart that 14 days is enoug to deter anybody from cheating coming into the fight. 7 days...that should seal the deal.

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            • guru
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              #26
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Now why are they banned in the first place? Something like winstrol, for instance?
              politics, dumb ass congress. watch this movie documentry called Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Congress spent more time on the baseball steroid contraversy then they did on health care that year.

              public perception is that it is dangerous. this guys son killed himself and the dad went b4 congress blaming steroids. no politician is gonna agrue with that guy and look bad, even though they had several doctors say steroids is like any other drug, when use correctly, its safe. when abused its dangerous.

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              • IMDAZED
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                #27
                Originally posted by brick wall
                that's pretty obvious. floyd did not offer a 14-day cut-off for nothing. and it was not his idea either...he was advised by usada & tygart that 14 days is enoug to deter anybody from cheating coming into the fight. 7 days...that should seal the deal.
                This is a lie. Prove it.

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                • TheSurgeonMDMPH
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by guru
                  i am a pro wrestler and trainer. IMO, steroids and HGH should be allowed in pro sports. i dont consider it cheating. i consider it a supplement like creatine. its just a very powerful supplement.
                  this is about the dumbest shyt i ever heard. we even use the****utic steroids with caution in the medical field. yet u propose free reign so the physically less gifted can get an advantage for profit. i have no respect for your opinion. u should stfu asap pal/wrestler/trainer.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by guru
                    politics, dumb ass congress. watch this movie documentry called Bigger, Faster, Stronger. Congress spent more time on the baseball steroid contraversy then they did on health care that year.

                    public perception is that it is dangerous. this guys son killed himself and the dad went b4 congress blaming steroids. no politician is gonna agrue with that guy and look bad, even though they had several doctors say steroids is like any other drug, when use correctly, its safe. when abused its dangerous.
                    I've watched that movie...and I actually wrote an article about whether steroids should be legal. But you still haven't answered my question regarding side effects and long term effects.

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by TheSurgeonMDMPH
                      this is about the dumbest shyt i ever heard. we even use the****utic steroids with caution in the medical field. yet u propose free reign so the physically less gifted can get an advantage for profit. i have no respect for your opinion. u should stfu asap pal/wrestler/trainer.
                      Seriously. But I'm curious as to why he advocates it and whether he feels that's all "BS"

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