7 day cutoff is reasonable, but year round testing is needed

[flopez80]

No Need For Testing

I don't have much knowledge about steroids, but I do know that the rules applied by the athletic commission are sufficient. Steroids are not common, but have been used in boxing; therefore, all this Mayweather crap about testing so that every fighter can be on a leveled plane is dismissed. Can you name three, or at least one, fighters other than Mosley and Vargas that have been caught in the last 10 years? Mayweather is just avoiding the biggest threat of his career. I actually think he can get a victory over pacman, but I strongly believe that the pac truly worries him. Think about it. He never asked for a drug test from any of his previous opponents. If you have a lot of knowledge about steroids, then I will just have to take your word for it, but I strongly believe that drug testing should be done in more commonly used sporting events such as the Olympics...not boxing!!!

I have a lot of knowledge about steroids and some about HGH. heres some of what i know.

- there are steroids that can be in and out of your system in a matter of days. so with a 7 day window, you can take steroids and get away with it. however you would not benefit from it in that short amount of time. there is no steroid that you can take and get results that fast.

- as of a few years ago HGH was undetectable. they may have developed something recently that can detect it, IDK. If it is still undetectable then no amount testing will matter. if it can be detected, then we are back to same position as above, HGH will do nothing in a week. Also, HGH helps you grows new muscles, while steroids make them bigger. HGH is commonly used with steroids to get the max benefit.

- NOW HERES THE BIG THING. it is possible to do a cycle, long before a fight. come into camp clean and pass all the testing and be stronger then you would be naturaly. yes you will lose size and strength when you come off a cycle and your system is clean, BUT you should still be stronger and bigger then you would naturally be.

THE ONLY WAY TO MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS NOT CHEATING IS YEAR ROUND RANDOM TESTING. and thats if they've developed something to detect HGH.


Conclusion: if its not year round testing, you're not gonna know if the other has cheated or not.

that leaves floyd with 4 options:
1) drop the testing issue since it can be worked around if its not year round testing
2) accept the 7 day cut off, since it means pac will at least be clean coming into the fight
3) wait for pac to accept his demands. but doesnt mean pac still cant cheat since its not year round
4) demand year round testing. set the fight date a year or more from now have pac tested til then.

[iNDOLiFER]

The real coward is that ***** with the big waffle iron head who likes to beat up on plodding, slow, left hook throwing weight weakend fighters. The real coward is the clown who didn't ask Torrecampo or Singsurat for a rematch lol...

yup, the real hero beat up on defenseless women and pokes at security guard and when u think he's done, he trys to run people off the road. this is the real hero wtf does manny pacyaw got on him?

[IMDAZED]

lol so you think floyd just pull that 14 days out of his ass?

No, I think you pulled that post out of your ass. Prove it.

[guru]

That is true about creatine haven't looked into though. But who is to say creatine is good thing. The bold is more than the million dollar question.

and thats where i think steroids have gotten a bad rap. other supplements are OK, but steroids are not. why? because of their reputation? because the germans won a bunch of medals using them before anyone else did? because congress says so?

[brick wall]

Highlighted for ******ity! why the *** do they take "supplements" then genius!
U guys say anything to try to justify another mans flaws. kinda creepy.
Or u guys are seriously ******!

shut up brainfart and read my post again...supplements can help you reach your full potential faster...your maximum...but it won't give you superpowers like some of you simpletons are trying to depict.

[IMDAZED]

i think, here again its just my opinion, if used properly the long term effects are known. steroids have been arounf for a long, long time.

we hear about the abusers all the time cause they die or someone shows up on TV like lyle alzado and blames steroids for their condition. but you dont hear about the guy thats been using it for 10+ years, correctly and is fine. i know more guys that have used steroids for 10 years or more and are fine then are unhealthy

What are they - and are you basing this on people you know or market research?

[IMDAZED]

you're too obvious moron...you're just trying to overrate peds for your personal agenda. every human being has limitations...if steroids can bring you beyond that your body will crumble when the effects are gone. you won't last because your body will deteriorate very fast.

LOL @ this fool proving my point

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

that's what I've been saying all along. 7 day cutoff is fine because there is no benefit 7 days before a fight, especially since that week is dedicated to promotion and training camp is winding down.

if you're gonna catch anyone, it's with year round testing.

I have already undressed u prior to this. But, I hate scorned women so I will continue to hurt ur heart.

U cant say in the same post that 7 days is good enough BUT year-around is best. Shyt just doesnt add up.

Then u will dismiss the fuss that roach made about margie getting tested before d/t shyt being out of his system after the fight. This is the same corner that is averse to OSTs period.

Also, amateurs fight in tourneys year around so year around testing makes sense there. But, pros fight 2-3 times a year at the elite level. Therefore, they train for their fights 2-3 a year in 6-10 week camps. THIS is when a fighter will cheat.

And BTW, theoretically, pacq can blood dope before the fight and the postfight blood test will show an elevated Hgb/Hct, but he can just say he is dehydrated which would be hard to dispute. There are no markers for your own blood that u take out weeks before and put right back in after ur body has compensated for the pint or two that u took out. Increased Hgb/Hct = increased stamina.

Now u can go back throwing darts at ur pbf posters loser.

[jrosales13]

I don't have much knowledge about steroids, but I do know that the rules applied by the athletic commission are sufficient. Steroids are not common, but have been used in boxing; therefore, all this Mayweather crap about testing so that every fighter can be on a leveled plane is dismissed. Can you name three, or at least one, fighters other than Mosley and Vargas that have been caught in the last 10 years? Mayweather is just avoiding the biggest threat of his career. I actually think he can get a victory over pacman, but I strongly believe that the pac truly worries him. Think about it. He never asked for a drug test from any of his previous opponents. If you have a lot of knowledge about steroids, then I will just have to take your word for it, but I strongly believe that drug testing should be done in more commonly used sporting events such as the Olympics...not boxing!!!

You made this your first post?

[trainhard_187]

that's what I've been saying all along. 7 day cutoff is fine because there is no benefit 7 days before a fight, especially since that week is dedicated to promotion and training camp is winding down.

if you're gonna catch anyone, it's with year round testing.

Agreed, and since Floyd is the one preaching OS Testing, he should be leading by example..

If Floyd isnt being tested year round then Pac can ask for a 7 day window pre fight... This should be reasonable..