Richard SCHAEFER in the Steroid Lawsuit: "PACQUIAO's Head Has Gotten Bigger".

[Left Hook Tua]

so, pac used to have a six pound advantage. and now he has a six pound disadvantage (i.e Cotto)

I'm cool with that. I don't see a big deal.

The only thing is people shouldn't say that he is beating bigger men now. Because Diaz and Oscar weren't really bigger.

Right?

i guess.

i wouldn't be the best person to ask though.

i still don't understand this water weight / lean muscle thing.

[IMDAZED]

you too huh?

i'm just a dumb ******* that doesn't understand water weight and lean muscle thing.

please explain it to me.


so manny is 145 fully rehydrated fight night but before the weigh in he cuts water weight to make 130......

now that he is 148 fully rehydrated fight night but doesn't cut water weight , what exactly is the difference aside from 3 lbs.?

i'd really like to understand. thank you.

About 17lbs the night before in a six month span. How do you do that? Juan Manuel Marquez is all ears.

[brick wall]

when pac weighed 145 he had more water weight than muscles...at 148 he's all muscles with so much less water weight

[Carpe Diem]

Red K a PED expert!

[Left Hook Tua]

Are you forreal? He cut water weight to get to 130? So what did he to do to get back up? Think about it, answer and I've got a nice follow up for you.

add the water he lost back to his body?

so that same water that he CUT and then PUT BACK ON......that's not in his body at 148?

so that water isn't in his body anymore because he didn't cut it and put it back on?

[IMDAZED]

add the water he lost back to his body?

so that same water that he CUT and then PUT BACK ON......that's not in his body at 148?

so that water isn't in his body anymore because he didn't cut it and put it back on?

Are you implying that he moved up using water weight? What does he do in the gym? Lounge around and eat donuts?

[Left Hook Tua]

About 17lbs the night before in a six month span. How do you do that? Juan Manuel Marquez is all ears.

think about what you said some more.


just think about it.

[Gino Ros]

i guess.

i wouldn't be the best person to ask though.

i still don't understand this water weight / lean muscle thing.

two guys on fight night are at their REAL WEIGHT. they are fully hydrated because they are going into an athletic competition.

So in this case, manny has more lean muscle than Oscar, and manny was the bigger guy. Oscar was the taller guy. But boxing has weight - not height - classes, and manny was the bigger guy.

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now, just as we acknowledge that manny is going into the ring at X pounds disadvantage against cotto or margarito, we must acknowledge that manny was fighting naturally smaller guys in the Mex 3:

four pound advantage on Marquez
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six pound advantage on Barrera
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five pound advantage on Morales
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We agree?

[IMDAZED]

think about what you said some more.


just think about it.

Oh I've thought plenty. Thought, asked, pestered, you name it. But go on - maybe we'll get to the bottom of this today. See my response above.

[Left Hook Tua]

Are you implying that he moved up using water weight? What does he do in the gym? Lounge around and eat donuts?

imdazed , just because you're not cutting water weight doesn't mean you have any less of it.

think.

you take 15 lbs. of water from your body and then re-add 15 lbs. of water.

now take the same body and don't take 15 lbs. of water out. what's the difference?