Richard SCHAEFER in the Steroid Lawsuit: "PACQUIAO's Head Has Gotten Bigger".

[Vadrigar.]

You cant show me one picture where hes flexing his entire body and a comparison photo of him just standing there.

It's hard to tell because the lighting and angles are all different, but I can't really see a difference.

[jrosales13]

[Left Hook Tua]

I do drain myself, actually.

I am somewhat OCD with my weight.


I have had a 6 pack disappear in a matter of 2 days with water weight.

you were just bloated because of your period.

[PainKiller]

You cant show me one picture where hes flexing his entire body and a comparison photo of him just standing there.

OK Morales then





Is that better for you?

[THE REED]

I see, well if you go down to 5% body fat like most boxers and don't eat and drink much, sweat away on treadmills, then look after yourself. Not eating and losing weight makes you lose some muscle, but you probably know this anyway

When you dehydrate, a lot of water disapears from certain areas and go to vital parts of your body. Even dehydration causes brain cells to die.

16lbs will make anyones body not look so toned. I also feel that when Pac use to go in the ring VS people, his body is no where near weigh in shape.

Well it has to do with Pac not being at his walking around weight at welterweight.. he has definitely put on muscle.

The fact that he can be at the very least, equally ripped at the weigh in at 130 compared to the weigh in at 145... Means he is lean muscle mass at 145 now...

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I always wondered why most of his fans think there is no way he could be cheating.

Pretty Naive.

[IMDAZED]

He came in pretty good shape for De la Hoya yes I agree though.

However, he may have trained very hard because it was his first step up after bum Diaz.

I don't think he was as ripped, but definitely still defined and bigger.

jro had a pic on here that was downright scary. Used to be in his sig. Anyway, going off what you see isn't a good idea anyway. But some things are hard to ignore...I think his ability to stand and trade with these guys and force them to back off is something I have never seen from someone whose leaped so many divisions.

[THE REED]

OK Morales then





Is that better for you?

Not really... it's all about poses..

Surely youve watched body building competitions?

A slight adjustment of stance completely changes the physique.

In the first picture he is bent down, crunching his abs, in the second he is stanind straight up, almost stretching them out.

[Slick_Rick]

Hes's always had a big head though, his face has just got fuller as he has gone up in weight. Its really not that hard to seen.

[Alibata]

I had missed the details from the depositions:


Schaefer declaration
In a three-page declaration, Schaefer told the court that in late 2009 and early 2010, he and other GBP officers as well as Floyd Mayweather Jr. advisor, Al Hayman, engaged in negotiations for a proposed March 2010 bout between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

The parties were in agreement on all major financial terms and drug testing was the only issue left on the table. The Mayweathers had severe concerns about the possibility that Pacquiao had been using illegal PEDs in connection with his more recent fights.

These concerns arose from a number of factors, including the fact that it is highly unusual for a professional boxer to fight at heavier weights during his career and maintain the same level of power in his punches and ability to withstand hard punches from bigger opponents.

Yet, as Pacquiao has moved up in weight by 40 pounds (itself an extraordinary feat) during his career, he has become more powerful and more impervious to blows by his opponents.

For example, in prior fights against much smaller opponents such as Juan Manuel Marquez and Marco Antonio Barrera, Pacquiao was unable to score knock-outs and was at times stunned by their punches.

Yet, in his recent fights against physically bigger and much more powerful fighters – like Oscar de la Hoya, Ricky Hatton and Miguel Cotto – Pacquiao has scored devastating knockouts (or technical knockouts). In addition, he has survived devastating punches by his opponents with no apparent effect.

Pacquiao’s head has grown
In addition, as shown by a comparison of Pacquiao’s pictures from his early career and today, it is clear that the size of his head has grown and his body has become far more muscular. As shown by March 25, 2010 "Judd Burstein Declaration," these changes are often associated with the use of PEDs.

In the light of these concerns, Schaefer said he consulted with the United States Anti-Doping Agency “to determine the most effective way to ensure that the Pacquiao-Mayweather bout would be a clean affair."

Based upon these conversations, the Mayweather camp insisted that both fighters agree to the same drug testing imposed upon the United States Olympic Team: i.e. random blood and urine testing up to at least 48 hours before the bout.

Although Mayweather readily agreed to these procedures, Pacquiao and his representatives refused. Pacquiao only agreed to three scheduled blood test: 1.) upon the signing of the contracts for the bout; 2.) 30 days before the bout; and 3.) immediately after the fight.

Schaefer said, “Pacquiao’s refusal to submit to effective drug testing only served to increase the Mayweather team’s concerns that Pacquiao has been using PEDs."

Schaefer said he was included in the lawsuit along with De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions when the “Amended Complaint alleges that, in September 2009, I told Philippine reporter Ronnie Nathanielsz – a reporter whom Pacquiao himself has accused of ‘fabricating horrible tales and putting words into the mouths of people he has not even talked to’ that I was 'sure Pacquiao was using PEDs.'"

He described such allegation as “absolute falsehood," saying, “if I had made the alleged statement to Nathanielsz, he (Nathanielsz) surely would have published it, which he did not."

Is this the same Shaffer that said suggested Manny was willing to do all tests? The same shaffer who works with Oscar who suggested Floyd is ducking?